The Spear is broken and useless (video)

[Roy]

So i just tried this thing and MAN is it good at being consistently worthless.
Once in a full moon you may oneshot a titan with it and it feels great, but 99% of the time the thing refuses to lock on and when it does hit it's still a roulette as to whether it does a lot of damage or not.
https://youtu.be/CXf5qYzIJr8

• Nearly always refuses to lock on at any range (short,medium or long, all shown in the video)
  
• No sense of target prioritisation whatsoever, aim it at a titan surrounded by small bugs and it will sometimes try to lock onto the smallest one around
  
• Only 3 spare missiles in the backpack, EVERY single missile costs a full resupply to stock, so if you want to fully load your pack and spear you'll have to hoard the entire supply drop
  
• Very slow reload, which would be fine if it was worthy enough of being a team weapon but imagine wasting not one but TWO people's effort on fumbling this thing
  
• Inconsistent damage. I don't mind a titan not always going down in one hit but two should be the maximum for how resource and effort expensive this weapon is. A charger can sometimes take two hits as well, it should go down no matter which angle you shoot it from imo.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[WhiteCrow]

Yeah it's really bad. I tried making it work a few times and at the end of every mission I felt like an a55hole for taking it. The horrible ammo economy is NOT justified at all with how bad it is. If it worked like you'd expect it to, then MAYBE that ammo economy would be worth it, but as it is right now it is a horrible pick that can make a mission so much worse.

[Roy]

Originally posted by WhiteCrow:

Yeah it's really bad. I tried making it work a few times and at the end of every mission I felt like an a55hole for taking it. The horrible ammo economy is NOT justified at all with how bad it is. If it worked like you'd expect it to, then MAYBE that ammo economy would be worth it, but as it is right now it is a horrible pick that can make a mission so much worse.

Yeah i'm definitely not going to take it again either.
I felt like a massive thorn in the squad's side when using this as well, both for wasting ammo and for sitting around like an idiot trying to lock the damn thing on most of the time.

[Coromiro]

It is better (I said "better" not "perfect" or "excellent") against bots.

[p5k]

Guy in the video consistently uses it the wrong way. Maybe stop shooting targets from the side or from behind. Also half of the time he tries to lock on he has far too little distance to the target, even if he could lock on, the rocket wont hit, because it would fly past the target.

[Suzaku]

Originally posted by p5k:

Guy in the video consistently uses it the wrong way. Maybe stop shooting targets from the side or from behind. Also half of the time he tries to lock on he has far too little distance to the target, even if he could lock on, the rocket wont hit, because it would fly past the target.

So, he should try to hit targets where they are most armored? And literally only once in the entire video does he try to shoot something close, and those rockets have a very tight turn radius. Even trying to shoot something 20 feet away would still get hit.

I don't think you even watched the video.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

I've taken it to bots missions... More like test runned it really. And yes, it is not worth it.

The one redeeming factor here is that you can one shot fabricators from miles away. But just like in the video, if your target is not clearly in line of sight and you can only see it partially then forget about it locking on.

It would not be as bad if you could dumb fire it. Actually it would probably be tons better if you could switch mode and dumb fire it whenever you want, with the lock on mechanism being an extra.

Wasting backpack space for the reload is pretty much the cherry on top.

[GoatseWithTheAwesomeSauce]

the what?

[Roy]

Originally posted by p5k:

Guy in the video consistently uses it the wrong way. Maybe stop shooting targets from the side or from behind. Also half of the time he tries to lock on he has far too little distance to the target, even if he could lock on, the rocket wont hit, because it would fly past the target.

Guy in the video is me and i'm not "consistently using it the wrong way", i'm using it any way i can to make it work.
Using the spear you don't have the luxury of lining up a headshot all the time, you pray to liberty the damn thing works and you take any hit you can.

(And no they didn't fly past the target, it only does that at hugging distance)

[Roy]

Originally posted by GoatseWithTheSauce:

the what?

Hydra missile launcher, the "Javelin"-like thing.

[Artarian]

This thing will just refuse to lock into ♥♥♥♥ to the point it just made me wish I had an EAT instead

[GoatseWithTheAwesomeSauce]

Originally posted by Roy:

Originally posted by GoatseWithTheSauce:

the what?

Hydra missile launcher, the "Javelin"-like thing.

you mean the spear

[Roy]

Originally posted by GoatseWithTheSauce:

Originally posted by Roy:

Hydra missile launcher, the "Javelin"-like thing.

you mean the spear

My bad lol you're right i keep mixing names up

[LOTSL]

Originally posted by GoatseWithTheSauce:

Originally posted by Roy:

Hydra missile launcher, the "Javelin"-like thing.

you mean the spear

I too was like what? you mean the Spear?

[CloversDrop]

Posted about the Spear doing this the other day in the forums.

Sometimes it's a 1 shot kill on titans, other times it takes all the ammo and still doesn't drop. You can't pick and choose where on the titan it hits, because it's a lock on weapon (front, back, sides obviously you can)

I tend to hold my finger down on the mouse button so it fires as soon as it locks, because the lock on it pretty terrible, as seen in your video.

The game has so many bugs and issues, not sure the developers really know where to start fixing everything.

[Roy]

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

Posted about the Spear doing this the other day in the forums.

Sometimes it's a 1 shot kill on titans, other times it takes all the ammo and still doesn't drop. You can't pick and choose where on the titan it hits, because it's a lock on weapon (front, back, sides obviously you can)

I tend to hold my finger down on the mouse button so it fires as soon as it locks, because the lock on it pretty terrible, as seen in your video.

The game has so many bugs and issues, not sure the developers really know where to start fixing everything.

I did notice that when you wait for the titan to face you, you'll likely score a headshot and oneshot him by doing so.

Then again it requires some black magic voodoo powers to even have it allow you to fire so waiting isn't really an option in practice, you best take every shot you can get.