This game uses nearly 15 gigs of RAM

[freshoutofmiracles]

Wow, RIP to people who use 16 gig setups. It makes my friend's game crash and disconnect sometimes.
The game client seems more unstable the more enemies show up in more difficult missions because of this.

[Jzson]

something wrong with your system. no idea what it would be, might not even be your fault, but 16gb isn't the issue, i have 16gb and the game runs better than most on my pc

[Bryan Fury]

Messaggio originale di freshoutofmiracles:

Wow, RIP to people who use 16 gig setups. It makes my friend's game crash and disconnect sometimes.
The game client seems more unstable the more enemies show up in more difficult missions because of this.

It uses roughly 8 GB at worst.. and that is after HOURS of continue gameplay.. there is something wrong with your system if it takes 16 GB or ram...

And i even have the ram compression OFF as i have 32 GB of ram, that is really plenty, and i don't want my CPU to take some load to compress and uncompress the cached ram sectors...

[hagare]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

Messaggio originale di Captain Furious:

It’s 2024, man

32gb should be standard

16GB is more than enough for like 95% of all game's.

but I wanna play the other 5%

[Panzer]

16gb's of ram here and not a single crash. Task manager has shown the game using a max of 7gb's for me lol

[Irot Noot]

The simple fact is if your system is well maintained, 16gb is enough to run this game and nearly every other game Ive ever seen just fine. Its when you try to run a game like this AND four browser windows with 10 tabs each, Discord, streaming music, porn, who knows....

Each open application takes and uses its own RAM footprint, more open applications, more RAM in use. If you play like this, then yes, you might you actually need more than 16gb to play a game. Then again, you aren't just playing a game on that 16gb are you?...

[Pctechnik]

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Messaggio originale di Captain Furious:

It’s 2024, man

32gb should be standard

Stating a year and some absurd number that nobody but someone who use their computer professionally for video editing or some such don't suddenly make you make sense. 32gb of ram is completely absurd.

32Gb is quite reasonable, Ark Ascended recommends 32Gb... its already happening.

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Messaggio originale di piss man:

I have 16gb of 3200mhz rams and my game runs like 90 fps probably cause I notice no lag or low fps. This mean ram isn't the issue your gpu and or cpu is or your ram is very slow?

Ram never actually affect performance unless you don't have enough of it. I can't believe we're still here explaining this.

This is true.

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Messaggio originale di ElyD:

That's exactly how it works. Do you just not know what a pagefile is? If your RAM fills up and an application request more space, Windows defaults to the pagefile which is notably slower than any stick of even DDR3 RAM.

I do hardware benchmarks for PC. Knowing how it works is literally part of my job

That's technically how it work. In reality that's not going to impact your performance at all. Games request an amount of ram on startup and if you have all the memory available then you won't see the difference. Literally the only time you'll notice performance degradation is if you don't have enough.

I've never ran a game on my PC on which 8gb wasn't enough.

That's basically what he said - it's not going to make a difference until you run out.

He's right, you're right, I'm right... We're not wrong here!

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Messaggio originale di ElyD:

There are documented cases for having page file access + game file on the same drive causing mild to severe stutter on asset load because drives only have so much bandwidth.
Anything the game needs to offload into the page file in general will cause stutter.

As to your "I've never not had enough" comment; You have no way of knowing unless you manually use software to check what's paged. Windows will never tell you that you could run faster or with better frametimes.

Games like BG3 and HD2 are the first few games I'm starting to have problem with and it is very clear to me that dropping graphic quality is what make me have more frames. Not ram.

That's not a false statement... You might start to run out of ram on the other hand if you run a game that utilizes a large percentage of your RAM, plus have multiple chrome browser tabs open AND streaming/recording software.

Your GPU will handle most of the game, RAM will be used for some of it, and your OS, and open programs will gobble up the rest... THIS is when pagefile comes into play.

32Gb generally is plenty for most gamers (for their games, and software sometimes ran whilst playing).

I built mine with 64Gb's... overkill, I had the cash... and have pretty much future-proofed my system against everything I'm likely to throw at it.

As for OP, I'd open task manager and see how much HD2 is using and what other programs are gobbling up chunks of RAM.

8Gb is minimum, 16Gb's is recommended for HD2... I'm pretty sure something else is eating into his 16Gb.

[Panzer]

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Stating a year and some absurd number that nobody but someone who use their computer professionally for video editing or some such don't suddenly make you make sense. 32gb of ram is completely absurd.

32Gb is quite reasonable, Ark Ascended recommends 32Gb... its already happening.

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Ram never actually affect performance unless you don't have enough of it. I can't believe we're still here explaining this.

This is true.

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

That's technically how it work. In reality that's not going to impact your performance at all. Games request an amount of ram on startup and if you have all the memory available then you won't see the difference. Literally the only time you'll notice performance degradation is if you don't have enough.

I've never ran a game on my PC on which 8gb wasn't enough.

That's basically what he said - it's not going to make a difference until you run out.

He's right, you're right, I'm right... We're not wrong here!

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Games like BG3 and HD2 are the first few games I'm starting to have problem with and it is very clear to me that dropping graphic quality is what make me have more frames. Not ram.

That's not a false statement... You might start to run out of ram on the other hand if you run a game that utilizes a large percentage of your RAM, plus have multiple chrome browser tabs open AND streaming/recording software.

Your GPU will handle most of the game, RAM will be used for some of it, and your OS, and open programs will gobble up the rest... THIS is when pagefile comes into play.

32Gb generally is plenty for most gamers (for their games, and software sometimes ran whilst playing).

I built mine with 64Gb's... overkill, I had the cash... and have pretty much future-proofed my system against everything I'm likely to throw at it.

As for OP, I'd open task manager and see how much HD2 is using and what other programs are gobbling up chunks of RAM.

8Gb is minimum, 16Gb's is recommended for HD2... I'm pretty sure something else is eating into his 16Gb.

There almost certainly has to be something else using up his ram. I was even able to play Helldivers with Chrome open streaming music and i still didn't have any issues on 16gb's.

Also i think the only game i can think of that could legitimately use 32gb's of ram is probably Star Citizen lol, that game is a massive ram hog. But pretty much like you and the other person said about ram not being an issue until you run out, that's definitely the case. I remember back when the Battlefield 1 beta came out it had a brutal ram leak, and my personal experience with it when i had 12gb's was that i could play fine for the first 15-45 minutes, before my frames would start chugging along, until that turned into stuttering, and eventually full on freezes. Was only able to bandaid fix it by increasing my ram to 24gb's, and even then the same issues would eventually come back, it just took longer

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Stating a year and some absurd number that nobody but someone who use their computer professionally for video editing or some such don't suddenly make you make sense. 32gb of ram is completely absurd.

32Gb is quite reasonable, Ark Ascended recommends 32Gb... its already happening.

That's recommended and you are making it sound like Ark is a reference for anything. It is not even a good game as far as I'm concerned. If it really ask for 16gb of ram then it is a crappy game just because of it.

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

You might start to run out of ram on the other hand if you run a game that utilizes a large percentage of your RAM, plus have multiple chrome browser tabs open AND streaming/recording software.

This is a gaming rig I have here. Why on Earth would I run 36 extra programs/tabs while playing a game? What possibly could drive me to even do this in the first place? To be frank just mentioning Chrome with so many tabs open is triggering...

[Anzaman]

Messaggio originale di Captain Furious:

It’s 2024, man

32gb should be standard

Some of us don't build new PC's every year, tho.

And I have zero desire to go and purchase more DDR3 RAM.

[BEEP!]

Messaggio originale di hagare:

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

16GB is more than enough for like 95% of all game's.

but I wanna play the other 5%

OK those are thing's like a heavily modded Sim City, Skyrim & Fallout4 with like 2000 mods & a heavily modded Minecraft it's over all very hard to even think of a single game that 32 over 16 offers a noticeable difference & there almost all excessively modded experiences.

[Pctechnik]

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

32Gb is quite reasonable, Ark Ascended recommends 32Gb... its already happening.

That's recommended and you are making it sound like Ark is a reference for anything. It is not even a good game as far as I'm concerned. If it really ask for 16gb of ram then it is a crappy game just because of it.

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

You might start to run out of ram on the other hand if you run a game that utilizes a large percentage of your RAM, plus have multiple chrome browser tabs open AND streaming/recording software.

This is a gaming rig I have here. Why on Earth would I run 36 extra programs/tabs while playing a game? What possibly could drive me to even do this in the first place? To be frank just mentioning Chrome with so many tabs open is triggering...

Because not everyone is a gamer, some are streamers - there are even players who simply like to record their gameplay in case they come across a glitch, a cheater, some sort of gantzthedemon or legitcat101... there are a myriad of uses for a PC and many are capable of being done simultaneously.

Messaggio originale di Anzaman:

Messaggio originale di Captain Furious:

It’s 2024, man

32gb should be standard

Some of us don't build new PC's every year, tho.

And I have zero desire to go and purchase more DDR3 RAM.

16Gb for $28.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Messaggio originale di Pctechnik:

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

That's recommended and you are making it sound like Ark is a reference for anything. It is not even a good game as far as I'm concerned. If it really ask for 16gb of ram then it is a crappy game just because of it.



This is a gaming rig I have here. Why on Earth would I run 36 extra programs/tabs while playing a game? What possibly could drive me to even do this in the first place? To be frank just mentioning Chrome with so many tabs open is triggering...

Because not everyone is a gamer, some are streamers - there are even players who simply like to record their gameplay in case they come across a glitch, a cheater, some sort of gantzthedemon or legitcat101... there are a myriad of uses for a PC and many are capable of being done simultaneously.

Messaggio originale di Anzaman:

Some of us don't build new PC's every year, tho.

And I have zero desire to go and purchase more DDR3 RAM.

16Gb for $28.

You are right but streamers are not the norm nor are they even numerous enough to make a dent in any kind of statistic. Thus they can't be taken as "the average" or as something which is recommended.

[Katitoff]

Messaggio originale di freshoutofmiracles:

Wow, RIP to people who use 16 gig setups. It makes my friend's game crash and disconnect sometimes.
The game client seems more unstable the more enemies show up in more difficult missions because of this.

So lower graphical settings?

[Rayous]

Messaggio originale di Bryan Fury:

Messaggio originale di freshoutofmiracles:

Wow, RIP to people who use 16 gig setups. It makes my friend's game crash and disconnect sometimes.
The game client seems more unstable the more enemies show up in more difficult missions because of this.

It uses roughly 8 GB at worst.. and that is after HOURS of continue gameplay.. there is something wrong with your system if it takes 16 GB or ram...

And i even have the ram compression OFF as i have 32 GB of ram, that is really plenty, and i don't want my CPU to take some load to compress and uncompress the cached ram sectors...

I just played helldivers for 30 minutes and when I was about to turn it off I checked and it was using over 8GB of RAM, more than I've ever seen any game take, especially an online only. Its a great game but damn they need to solve this.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Messaggio originale di Rayous:

Messaggio originale di Bryan Fury:

It uses roughly 8 GB at worst.. and that is after HOURS of continue gameplay.. there is something wrong with your system if it takes 16 GB or ram...

And i even have the ram compression OFF as i have 32 GB of ram, that is really plenty, and i don't want my CPU to take some load to compress and uncompress the cached ram sectors...

I just played helldivers for 30 minutes and when I was about to turn it off I checked and it was using over 8GB of RAM, more than I've ever seen any game take, especially an online only. Its a great game but damn they need to solve this.

Last time I checked myself, it barely used two.

Out of curiosity, what is your GPU amount of ram and your PC amount ram?