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P-4 Senator, a little underwhelming against Terminids, better against Automatons?
I'm still messing around with it, but on the one bug mission I've taken it on, it didn't leave the greatest first impression for me.

This is what I've got so far in comparison to the only other side arm that you can get in the game that wasn't given via pre-order

P-4 Senator Revolver

Pros
heavy single shot Alpha
More accurate at a distance (?)
Can be fired immediately after a single round is loaded during emergencies
Can be fired one handed

Cons
Slow reload
small cylinder capacity (duh, it's a revolver)

P-19 Redeemer Machine Pistol

Pros
High rate of fire
Large magazine capacity
Can be fired one handed

Cons
In accurate in full auto are range
low alpha per round (compensated by 1.1K RPM)

I might be using it wrong, but I didn't see the advantage of using this over the P-19 Redeemer machine pistol, which has x5 ammo capacity, and x5 1/2 the rate of fire. Both have light armor pen as far as I can tell.

The only advantage I can see is that the P-4 might be a little more accurate at a distance, but that issue can be resolved by firing 2-3 shot bursts with the P-19. The high alpha doesn't appear to be enough to make it worth while when used against the bugs at least.

Does this handgun do better against enemies like the Automatons? I have a sneaking suspicion this weapon may be similar to the AMR, where the AMR is quite lackluster against the bugs, it shines a great deal more against the Automatons where precise shots to the head that can end the threat of medium enemies such as Berserkers and Devastators can be an incredible boon.

I understand the reasoning for making it single load, but even making it where players can load it via 3 round half moon clips would make the weapon much more flexible IMO. I don't think the weapon is so powerful that it really warrants the long reload penalty, at least in its current form.

I'll continue to mess around with it, but I'd love to hear other players thoughts about this weapon.
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Qua2ar Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:13am 
I like it, the reload wastes no ammo and even if it's a slow reload, it's a sidearm, so it does not need to perform well in general combat situations, just as a backup against medium armor targets.

I only bring it against bots. For the bugs I prefer the fast firing pistol.
Last edited by Qua2ar; Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:15am
Eagle_of_Fire Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:18am 
I actually way prefer the uzi against automatons. I commonly whip it out to destroy those big bots with chainsaws which rush you out. A good salvo to the head or the torso kill one outright.

I've never switched back to the revolver once I got it.
MarcoPants Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:35am 
At least the Senator can take the head off a Devastator in one shot or, at the very least, pen their armor (it penetrates medium armor despite saying only light)
Artimise Flare Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by MarcoPants:
At least the Senator can take the head off a Devastator in one shot or, at the very least, pen their armor (it penetrates medium armor despite saying only light)

That I didn't know, and what i was speculating on later in my post. That's great to hear, so it does sound like it has more utility against the Automatons.
Emanouche Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:50am 
I dunno what's better, I only use it 'cause it makes me feel like a bad-ass democracy delivering machine, one bullet at the time.
Artimise Flare Feb 25, 2024 @ 11:28pm 
Originally posted by ONSEmanouche:
I dunno what's better, I only use it 'cause it makes me feel like a bad-ass democracy delivering machine, one bullet at the time.

Having messed around with it more, for the Terminids, I prefer the the P-19 redeemer machine pistol. The larger magazine capacity and faster RoF lends itself better to killing the numerous numbers of chaff that likes to rush you and try to overwhelm you.

The Senator, is nicer when you got a pair of Berserker's running at you, and up need something to put them down swiftly and efficiently.
jey123456 Feb 25, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
the biggest bonus on the revolver, is that its not following the written stats.
It has more armor piercing that the dominator (medium armor piercing), it can go through anything except the heaviest plate of armor (the ones in front of charger, and the head / side of titan).

whereas dominator cannot pierce the thinner part on charger, the revolver can.

I personally carry it around as a quick way to get rid of small armored bug tho, save me from wasting primary bullet on them.
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Date Posted: Feb 25, 2024 @ 7:10am
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