AR-23E vs AR-23

[ZeroCool]

Does anyone know how the AR-23E you get from the medal tier you pay 1000 SC to unlock is better than default vanilla rifle you stat with?

AR-23E DMG - 55 CAP - 30 REC - 28 FR - 320
AR-23 DMG - 55 CAP - 45 REC - 15 FR - 640

It seems to me the "premium" weapon is worse. Am I missing something about it?

[Ursa_Luna]

One does "explosive damage" which does somewhat more damage against certain units/weak points.... yeah, the AR-23 is better most of the time. Gotta love ol'reliable.

[Valkynaz]

From what I've read, the AR-23E is bugged and is only doing about 33%~ extra weakspot damage instead of the 100% it's supposed too or something like that, basically the only way it's really better then the default liberator is in it's ability to stunlock single enemies, might be good for someone who splits from the team to hunt Stalkers, not much else tbh

[Viking]

No, you're not missing anything. The premium weapons are straight garbage and you should not waste your hard-earned medals on them.

[Hampamatta]

Originally posted by Viking:

No, you're not missing anything. The premium weapons are straight garbage and you should not waste your hard-earned medals on them.

the vast majority of weapons are garbage, not just the premium ones. but my friend thinks the explosive ar is actually quite good because the explosive bullets staggers enemies.

[Mai Valentine]

dump everything play breaker til fix or adjustment. premium weapons are all hot garbage most normal weapons are playable but are just inferior to the breaker. Game resolves around outrunning ur enemy u cant shoot an dmr straigth without stamina but can shoot the breaker across the map. I think they need to buff the other weapons if they nerf breaker we need more ammo on all weapons. But with game state rigth now just unlock everything except weapons, imo. That is if your new to the game just breaker and normal ar are good enough for helldive.

[Crimson Bolt]

from what I have gathered, there are 3 versions for 3 scenarios

AR-23 - general all arounder
AR-23E - Anti Bug AR
AR-23P - Anti Mech AR

The problem is, the AR-23E is apparently bugged and not doing proper damage?
The AR-23P has a silly low magazine capacity and just isn't that great. I don't understand why it has lower damage AND clip size than the standard AR given that the armor pen is not as great as it sounds...

[ImHelping]

The best premium weapon is the Knight SMG, which you don't even need to spend medals on. But is at it's best when you are so early all you have to work with is the ♥♥♥♥ starter assault rifle. (good news, assault rifles have a zoom increase! bad news, that makes the movement and stationary recoil stability garbage even using +recoil control crouched armor)

The armor penetration one sadly can't help you where it counts. The """trade off""" of no longer being able to reliably kill trash with a single burst to the body for medium pen, ends up with you dumping four magazines into the back of a sniper tower radiator vent before giving up and using a support weapon or orbital nuke anyways.

Very scumbag lawyer logic. TECHNICALLY they didn't lie to you that the penetrator has medium pen. TECHNICALLY they didn't lie do you that the premium explosive AR is explosive. So good, honest.... oh it is a letdown? Gosh sounds like you just want an OP weapon able to kill things huh? (the revolver also reloads slower than the pump action shotgun, and is wildly inaccurate with 3rd person under pressure. While the automatic default pistol upgrade is a complete monster)

Defender SMG in the default warbond is rock solid because it is basically what a videogame assault rifle should be, but it of course struggles when you need to magdump against spam in your face faster like shooting an armor peeled charger leg or surrounded by chainsaw robots.