The HMG Emplacement is underrated

[Dcethe]

I see everyone carrying the standard shield + railgun or autogun, but this baby literally shreds enemies apart easily.
Just killed 30+ automatons who were firing rockets and killing my teammates constantly, not a problem anymore.

4 bile titans spawn in? aim for the head and watch it burst.

seriously its only like level 10 and it can carry you far in the game

[Fractured]

Originally posted by SHOKK⁧⁧⁧♡:

Originally posted by Fractured:

Also problem, most high ground will just bounce the stratagem.

Or the bug magically morphs into the rock and appears at the top on you.

Oh gotta love that.

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

So true.

I’ve been trying to tell people this. But these selfish, no lifer, “go off on my own” mfs just want to go mortar turret, laser orbital, nuke, guard rover and end every match with 3 accidentals…

As a new player the Mortar has caused me so much grief, it's unbelievable. This thing will teamkill people as far as 20 feet away from itself. You literally have to stay on top of it while it works otherwise you are getting TKed.

[Pride Lizard Pride Lizard]

Me and my friend have talked about it actually. I havent used it, but he's like "this thing seems kinda trash if I'm honest." I said to him, "It looks really good if you have teammates covering the weaknesses." Like yeah, I guess a heavy machine gun emplacement that makes short work of most fodder enemies would be pretty good in a game like this, actually. If your teammates were backing you up with anti-armour (which is true for most things in this game v:)

[Fractured]

Originally posted by Surprise! A Wandering Slugcat!:

Me and my friend have talked about it actually. I havent used it, but he's like "this thing seems kinda trash if I'm honest." I said to him, "It looks really good if you have teammates covering the weaknesses." Like yeah, I guess a heavy machine gun emplacement that makes short work of most fodder enemies would be pretty good in a game like this, actually. If your teammates were backing you up with anti-armour (which is true for most things in this game v:)

Ya, not a world where you have enough AT to keep that thing up and running. No way you could take down 4-10 chargers fast enough.

[PlazmaBolt]

It really sucks that people think anything that can't pierce heavy armor is bad, there are alot of stratagems and weapons that are slept on because people don't understand that certain things shouldn't be effective at every aspect of combat. The HMG is definitely one of those (I do think it needs a smidge of a turn radius buff tho).

[Fractured]

Originally posted by PlazmaBolt:

It really sucks that people think anything that can't pierce heavy armor is bad, there are alot of stratagems and weapons that are slept on because people don't understand that certain things shouldn't be effective at every aspect of combat. The HMG is definitely one of those (I do think it needs a smidge of a turn radius buff tho).

When the game becomes the Heavy Armor game. Ya, anything that doesn't pierce armor IS bad.

When you have 2 Bile Titans, and 6+ Chargers coming down on you. The least of my worries are some squishy ass bugs that I can kill easily with my primary.

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by Fractured:

Originally posted by PlazmaBolt:

It really sucks that people think anything that can't pierce heavy armor is bad, there are alot of stratagems and weapons that are slept on because people don't understand that certain things shouldn't be effective at every aspect of combat. The HMG is definitely one of those (I do think it needs a smidge of a turn radius buff tho).

When the game becomes the Heavy Armor game. Ya, anything that doesn't pierce armor IS bad.

When you have 2 Bile Titans, and 6+ Chargers coming down on you. The least of my worries are some squishy ass bugs that I can kill easily with my primary.

Its mainly good for bots. It can kill 95% of the enemies leaving only tanks ya gotta worry about, hulks can die if you aim for their eye. Very helpful if they have a bunch of heavy units in a location ya wanna clear fast or holding for the dreadful evac mission ( tested on 6 its passable, ya need a way to clear tanks with OS, 500kg or recoil strike. )
so for an evac mission I carry Mortar, HMG, Railgun n 500kg.

For bugs its meh, good for lower levels with little armor bad for 6+.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Originally posted by Fractured:

When the game becomes the Heavy Armor game. Ya, anything that doesn't pierce armor IS bad.

When you have 2 Bile Titans, and 6+ Chargers coming down on you. The least of my worries are some squishy ass bugs that I can kill easily with my primary.

Its mainly good for bots. It can kill 95% of the enemies leaving only tanks ya gotta worry about, hulks can die if you aim for their eye. Very helpful if they have a bunch of heavy units in a location ya wanna clear fast or holding for the dreadful evac mission ( tested on 6 its passable, ya need a way to clear tanks with OS, 500kg or recoil strike. )
so for an evac mission I carry Mortar, HMG, Railgun n 500kg.

For bugs its meh, good for lower levels with little armor bad for 6+.

HMG can kill a bile titan by shooting it in the face and kill chargers by ricocheting the shot from the back leg into the butt. Those are the only two enemies you have to shoot in a specific spot, everyone else is just giblets.

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Its mainly good for bots. It can kill 95% of the enemies leaving only tanks ya gotta worry about, hulks can die if you aim for their eye. Very helpful if they have a bunch of heavy units in a location ya wanna clear fast or holding for the dreadful evac mission ( tested on 6 its passable, ya need a way to clear tanks with OS, 500kg or recoil strike. )
so for an evac mission I carry Mortar, HMG, Railgun n 500kg.

For bugs its meh, good for lower levels with little armor bad for 6+.

HMG can kill a bile titan by shooting it in the face and kill chargers by ricocheting the shot from the back leg into the butt. Those are the only two enemies you have to shoot in a specific spot, everyone else is just giblets.

Yea i've killed titans with it before, though not chargers thanks for that bit of info, it just dies without anyone helping ya out. I've found spots on the map that offer high ground but none that the enemy can eventually path through and kill ya.
Bots - S Tier
Bugs - B Tier

[Fractured]

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

HMG can kill a bile titan by shooting it in the face and kill chargers by ricocheting the shot from the back leg into the butt. Those are the only two enemies you have to shoot in a specific spot, everyone else is just giblets.

Yea i've killed titans with it before, though not chargers thanks for that bit of info, it just dies without anyone helping ya out. I've found spots on the map that offer high ground but none that the enemy can eventually path through and kill ya.
Bots - S Tier
Bugs - B Tier

You sure its S Tier against bots? At what difficulty?

1. You're likely to have the 100% deployment time on higher difficulties, so it gonna take a hot minute assuming you don't have the last module. Getting pushed out of an area within that time seems likely

2. Wouldn't any missile, cannon, or ranged hulk instantly bust an HMG? Especially considering that any that would insta-bust a HMG, would instantly target it the second it touches ground.

[Dcethe]

Originally posted by Fractured:

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Yea i've killed titans with it before, though not chargers thanks for that bit of info, it just dies without anyone helping ya out. I've found spots on the map that offer high ground but none that the enemy can eventually path through and kill ya.
Bots - S Tier
Bugs - B Tier

You sure its S Tier against bots? At what difficulty?

1. You're likely to have the 100% deployment time on higher difficulties, so it gonna take a hot minute assuming you don't have the last module. Getting pushed out of an area within that time seems likely

2. Wouldn't any missile, cannon, or ranged hulk instantly bust an HMG? Especially considering that any that would insta-bust a HMG, would instantly target it the second it touches ground.

Then your playing the game wrong. You hold a spot that has a dip, hide in the crevice and come up to fire. or hide behind a rock. Why would you call it infront of a turret cannon? call down a HMG which comes in 16 secs on higher diffs. it takes half a second to kill Rocket Devestators, 2 seconds for Hulks. Having more teammates = more distractions aswell.

If you are going into a heavy factory take out the cannons first with whatever you got, find a good spot and call down the hmg and kill da bots, game done.

average diff I play is 6, I've played on diff8 but the HMG doesn't stand because you deal with multiple tank drops on every obj.

EDIT: also go on the first page of this discussion, Horst posted a vid of them using a HMG on Diff 9 for the bots. you can see how effective it is for yourself there.

[Fractured]

Originally posted by Dcethe:

Originally posted by Fractured:

You sure its S Tier against bots? At what difficulty?

1. You're likely to have the 100% deployment time on higher difficulties, so it gonna take a hot minute assuming you don't have the last module. Getting pushed out of an area within that time seems likely

2. Wouldn't any missile, cannon, or ranged hulk instantly bust an HMG? Especially considering that any that would insta-bust a HMG, would instantly target it the second it touches ground.

Then your playing the game wrong. You hold a spot that has a dip, hide in the crevice and come up to fire. or hide behind a rock. Why would you call it infront of a turret cannon? call down a HMG which comes in 16 secs on higher diffs. it takes half a second to kill Rocket Devestators, 2 seconds for Hulks. Having more teammates = more distractions aswell.

If you are going into a heavy factory take out the cannons first with whatever you got, find a good spot and call down the hmg and kill da bots, game done.

average diff I play is 6, I've played on diff8 but the HMG doesn't stand because you deal with multiple tank drops on every obj.

EDIT: also go on the first page of this discussion, Horst posted a vid of them using a HMG on Diff 9 for the bots. you can see how effective it is for yourself there.

1. If you're killing the cannons, you might as well just have an airstrike and take out the base.

2. There isn't really holding any ground in this game once you reach Suicide (The difficulty I play). You get pushed by chainsaws/missiles/tanks/hulks constantly. You essentially run around and throw pot shots at stuff while avoiding all the enemy. HMG just isn't mobile, which is required at the higher difficulties.

3. Ya, his video is a friggn defense. A 5 year old could complete a Helldiver difficulty defense at level 1 lol. Now show me the HMG in action at a 9 difficulty without it being defense. And have it be the whole mission, not just some niche clip where the stars aligned.

[KZ]

The best thing you can do is place it out of reach of melee units (I like the tops of Bot bunkers.) Just wish it had more ammo.

[Penaldo]

Inb4 Heavy devastrator rocket your ars

[Jebus]

I love this call-in, but it has a serious ammo limit problem, and the upgrades that increase turret ammo dont (Atleast they say they dont) apply to it.

if i could upgrade the ammo on it, i'd use it more.
Atm it has less impact than turret because of that limitation.