SUGGESTION: Give the Option to Randomise Stratagem Codes to stop Marco Key Cheats.

[IndieBob]

Since nobody reads past the title, rewritten.

This would be an option which would set how stratagems are handled in the game. Since some people are using macros - the option to get rid of them entirely. Standard more as it is and then the 'hard mode' of randomised key strings. I should also have an option to make it so I only join games of the type I specify.

For example, Resupply might always be a 4 key code which starts with a double key sequence, but change what that code is, each time the stratagem is activated. A bit like the codes on the average authentication app, which refresh every so often.

So the first time I use resupply the code might be down down up right. I get my supplies and the code changes to left left right down for the next drop, etc.

You could have a template something like Key1 Key1 Key 2 Key3 for resupply but change what those keys are each time, whilst keeping the general level of difficulty for each stratagem.

The required code would be shown on the screen but it would be un-macro-able, the player would have to enter it manually, barring screen scraping software.

Original Post:

So, for example, Resupply might always be a 4 key code which starts with a double key sequence, but change what that code is, each time the stratagem is activated. A bit like the codes on the average authentication app, which refresh every so often.

So the first time I use resupply the code might be down down up right. I get my supplies and the code changes to left left right down for the next drop, etc.

You could have a template something like Key1 Key1 Key 2 Key3 for resupply but change what those keys are each time, whilst keeping the general level of difficulty for each stratagem.

The required code would be shown on the screen but it would be un-macro-able, the player would have to enter it manually, barring screen scraping software.

EDIT1: Make it a server option. Also put in an option to remove codes entirely, allowing a player to select them from the list, or limit them to one or two key/button presses so that people who find them offensive can effectively remove them entirely, rather than cheating. It could be considered a difficulty setting. But, if I am host, my setting takes precedence over all others. They can play with it or leave.

EDIT2: Q: "Bu why not let people play the way they want to, it's not competitive?!?!?"
A: "Why does the game have an anti cheat? What's the bfd with an aimbot? Why can't they just let people play the way they want to? etc. Or rather why is aimbot bad where macro good? It's not competitive ..."

EDIT3: Stratagem hero is entirely dominated by cheater scores. It is competitive.

[Nick Walker II]

You really hate macro users, huh? What about people who memorized their strategems?

[IndieBob]

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

You really hate macro users, huh? What about people who memorized their strategems?

Seems the macrokids spoil it for everyone. Plus it'd just be a different skill to learn. You could still get good at it.

[Verios44]

No. This would just hurt those of us who memorize these things.

Also not sure macros even work for strategems.

[Nick Walker II]

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

You really hate macro users, huh? What about people who memorized their strategems?

Seems the macrokids spoil it for everyone.

I don't think macros are a big enough problem to require a solution. Even then, it's just a PvE game it doesn't effect you. Just kick+block them if you really can't stand them.

[IndieBob]

Originally posted by Verios44:

No. This would just hurt those of us who memorize these things.

Also not sure macros even work for strategems.

I saw a script which assigns resupply to F5, reenforce to F6 and so on.

[IndieBob]

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Seems the macrokids spoil it for everyone.

I don't think macros are a big enough problem to require a solution. Even then, it's just a PvE game it doesn't effect you. Just kick+block them if you really can't stand them.

Unless say, the person claiming to be the best player in the world uses them. It's P2W, even if the pay doesn't make it to the games developer. If it doesn't matter, why should OP premium shop items matter? etc.

[Nick Walker II]

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

I don't think macros are a big enough problem to require a solution. Even then, it's just a PvE game it doesn't effect you. Just kick+block them if you really can't stand them.

Unless say, the person claiming to be the best player in the world uses them. It's P2W, even if the pay doesn't make it to the games developer. If it doesn't matter, why should OP premium shop items matter? etc.

Alright you lost me at P2W.

[Fraggen Wagon]

No

[Bluejay0013]

why do you care so much? its a coop game? if theyre faster at it, then i say welcome!

[Null]

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Seems the macrokids spoil it for everyone.

That hurt by potential that someone will press 4 buttons faster than you?

[Ghazghkull]

I hope they never make it random.
My muscle memory from HD1 is still around for the reinforcement. I literally do it in a split second without thinking or looking

Also they sold the game for a higher price for that arcade game on the ship... if they make them all random then its kinda breaking that game.

[Lawn Chair Enthusiast]

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

You really hate macro users, huh? What about people who memorized their strategems?

Seems the macrokids spoil it for evefowardryone. Plus it'd just be a different skill to learn. You could still get good at it.

Ruin what? You're the one trying to this ridiculous idea in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ co-op game- literally no one else has this problem here except you here.

[『 ❀ Rin ❀ 』]

lol, my question is do you hate macros? or are you salty you cant use macros? some people found a way that doesnt hurt literally anyone to make something faster and convenient and here you are, all up in arms, asking for changes that would also hurt those who memorized them. you are in-fact super silly and immature.

[Mountain King]

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

You really hate macro users, huh? What about people who memorized their strategems?

Seems the macrokids spoil it for everyone. Plus it'd just be a different skill to learn. You could still get good at it.

Seems like you are trying to spoil stratagems for everyone over something that has no negative effect on you whatsoever.

[Waldherz]

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

Originally posted by IndieBob:

Unless say, the person claiming to be the best player in the world uses them. It's P2W, even if the pay doesn't make it to the games developer. If it doesn't matter, why should OP premium shop items matter? etc.

Alright you lost me at P2W.

Yea that guy lost his grasp on reality that moment.