The Stratagem Randomizer on Helldives is just not fun

[N1]

Bro, don't make me spend the entire game learning and honing my skills just to get good enough to play on higher level difficulties just to have those skills boil down to randomizing one of the core elements that y'all forced me to learn. I love the difficulty, I don't mind losing, but what's the point of playing missions on planets that have that effect if I can't even learn from my mistakes because the strats are just random. C'mon, use your imaginations, y'all can make better modifiers than that.

[Mathspode (Qc)]

yep annoying af, i always avoid these modifier

[Dord :---DD]

Just do the shortest input stratagem you have over and over again until you get the one you want, it's the least annoying bot mutator.

[Chocbomb]

+1 annoying af

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Dord :---DD:

Just do the shortest input stratagem you have over and over again until you get the one you want, it's the least annoying bot mutator.

It helps that the airburst is actually really, REALLY good against robots too.

1 Bug breach: Will spawn between salvos, a bunch will survive or leap out of the way as they spawn between salvos

2-3 Dropships deploying near eachother: Everything smaller than a literal tank is now dead.

But yeah. Randomizer is only praiseworthy for people who think boring inconvenience is the same thing as "skill, challenge, and CHAOS"

[protoka]

I just had this for the first time, thought the game was bugged. Nope. Electronic countermeasures. Real interesting planetary effect. It would be nice if you could destroy some EMS radar station on planet and get rid of that ♥♥♥♥. Might start using macros only for those planets...

[N1]

Originally posted by Dord :---DD:

Just do the shortest input stratagem you have over and over again until you get the one you want, it's the least annoying bot mutator.

Yeah, I mean, thats what I end up doing but that just so dumb. Its effectively losing a slot that you want to use in favor of rolling the die. And then on top of that in a tight situation you just get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when you really need to get a strat off. It's so lame. I would rather just get the modifier that reduces the strats that I'm allowed to bring in. At least then i still know what I'm getting. On top of all that, again, I am not learning how to use the strats cvorrectly doing that. Its basically getting rid of an aspect of your gameplay that relied on skill and making rely on RNG. That's retarded.

[Sid]

I'd be more fun to have the codes getting randomized frequently. This affix is so un-fun and so random that I just don't even bother doing missions there.

[N1]

Originally posted by SKAPPELTON:

I'd prefer if they make it like the jammer where you can destroy a structure and not all game effect.

This would be much less ridiculous. I would be about that.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

Instead of randomizing what the combo gives you why in the hell did they not just make the combo you have to put in randomized every time you go to use it?

Wouldn't that have been a much better idea?

I mean seriously you sit there trying to call in one support weapon, last game it took me freaking 11 tries just to get my spear.

Is that fun? Is that difficult? Is that the engaging gameplay people crave?

I hope not.

It's so bad our entire 4 man group thought the game was bugged the first mission we did with it because none of us thought any dev would be dumb enough to think that was a good idea and when we figured out what it was we collectively said "What the ♥♥♥♥ where they smoking when they made THAT."

[Hand]

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

Instead of randomizing what the combo gives you why in the hell did they not just make the combo you have to put in randomized every time you go to use it?

Wouldn't that have been a much better idea?

I mean seriously you sit there trying to call in one support weapon, last game it took me freaking 11 tries just to get my spear.

Is that fun? Is that difficult? Is that the engaging gameplay people crave?

I hope not.

It's so bad our entire 4 man group thought the game was bugged the first mission we did with it because none of us thought any dev would be dumb enough to think that was a good idea and when we figured out what it was we collectively said "What the ♥♥♥♥ where they smoking when they made THAT."

now THAT would be fun it would phychologically ♥♥♥♥ with everyone especially if a strategem is supposed to be short but its super long and super long was short

[JaCRO]

Originally posted by N1:

Bro, don't make me spend the entire game learning and honing my skills just to get good enough to play on higher level difficulties just to have those skills boil down to randomizing one of the core elements that y'all forced me to learn. I love the difficulty, I don't mind losing, but what's the point of playing missions on planets that have that effect if I can't even learn from my mistakes because the strats are just random. C'mon, use your imaginations, y'all can make better modifiers than that.

yOU hAve a So cAlLed SkiLl IsSue.

[sweng]

My teammate lol on me when try to roll support weapon for 30 second

[Chaos]

Yeah, I think it's pretty stupid way to do ECM.
If they want ECM that much, make it so they random the codes, not the strats that come out.
That way, it's actually need skill, not pure luck...or spamming.

[sweng]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Yeah, I think it's pretty stupid way to do ECM.
If they want ECM that much, make it so they random the codes, not the strats that come out.
That way, it's actually need skill, not pure luck...or spamming.

Yes, i agree. Screw your muscle memories is better than try your luck