PSA: Saving samples is more important than extracting (Mission > Samples > Surviving)

[0x41414141]

Maybe it's not obvious at first but extracting is the lowest priority of a mission. If you need to die to try and recover samples, it should be done.

I see a lot of people prioritizing "surviving" instead of trying to fight to bring back samples. The XP/Credits gained from a survivor is not enough to justify leaving samples behind.

TLDR:
Mission > Samples > Surviving

[Baelog]

Primary OBJ > Secondary/Bonus OBJ > Samples > Medals/Credits

The only Helldiver that needs to make it back are the ones carrying Samples. Medals and Credits are auto-added to your currency.

[Mosey]

To be perfectly honest, it's generally better to just leave a map and get a new one rather than taking your time to find every last one of them.

I'm not going to kill myself to get the one's back that team mates left behind dying across the map when extraction is a minute away. If they really wanted us to extract with them, they'd have dropped them all at the extraction point before wandering off and dying horribly.

To be frank, the only currency that matters in this game is super credits. Anything else eventually maxes out and becomes trash. I'm not even sure that super credits don't max out, to be honest, but since it's the cash currency I'm assuming for the moment that there is no hard cap there.

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by 0x41414141:

Mission > Samples > Surviving

You don't get the samples if you don't survive and extract, so it's pretty hard to say it's more important.

And, honestly, I've seen people running back across the whole map when everything else is done just to recover a few samples off their dead body with 4 minutes left in the mission while everyone else is ready for evac. It can absolutely be a waste of time in some circumstances.

[0x41414141]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by 0x41414141:

Mission > Samples > Surviving

You don't get the samples if you don't survive and extract, so it's pretty hard to say it's more important.

And, honestly, I've seen people running back across the whole map when everything else is done just to recover a few samples off their dead body with 4 minutes left in the mission while everyone else is ready for evac. It can absolutely be a waste of time in some circumstances.

Some common sense is needed if you are going to simplify things. Obviously the sample carrier needs to survive.

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by 0x41414141:

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

You don't get the samples if you don't survive and extract, so it's pretty hard to say it's more important.

And, honestly, I've seen people running back across the whole map when everything else is done just to recover a few samples off their dead body with 4 minutes left in the mission while everyone else is ready for evac. It can absolutely be a waste of time in some circumstances.

Some common sense is needed if you are going to simplify things. Obviously the sample carrier needs to survive.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not always worth it. And most of the time, everybody is carrying some. Unless you're playing with a coordinated group, it's rare for one guy to be handling all the samples.

Hell, with how often the game randomly drops connection/crashes it's probably wise to divvy them out a bit.

[Kaggy]

Originally posted by Baelog:

Primary OBJ > Secondary/Bonus OBJ > Samples > Medals/Credits

The only Helldiver that needs to make it back are the ones carrying Samples. Medals and Credits are auto-added to your currency.

wut?
half the secondary objs just arent worth wasting time doing outside of if you are looking for samples
broadcast tower, blow up the lap for example, both not worth caring about honestly besides the samples at them, if its a mess to actualyl DO that obj? just grab the samples and run off, its a very minor amount of xp lost and req lost, when both of those things are in abundance and you only need to realistically reach lvl 20

Things like radar dish? +++ always do, helps you find super credits,medals AND those locations typically have samples!
SEAF artiliary? definitely do if near it, its just free call ins and can be very useful depending on your luck with what its ordinance is

Robots also have pointless ones and more important ones to do im just listing some as examples

If you see a seaf across the entire map or a lab you forgot, and oyu are at extract or something..dont bother going for it, its not worth the extra time spent tbh, you are better off at that point heading out and to next mission to maximize your medals/samples/xp overall


Same with hives, worth if close to do, samples and lowering patrols on map but if that crap is way off far out of the way,and no one splits to do it earlier, tbh just skip it

(if playing at difficulty 7-9 youll often be doing far more roaming regardless for super samples, and often be near objs...usually.. and can knock them out)

[Kaggy]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by 0x41414141:

Some common sense is needed if you are going to simplify things. Obviously the sample carrier needs to survive.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not always worth it. And most of the time, everybody is carrying some. Unless you're playing with a coordinated group, it's rare for one guy to be handling all the samples.

Hell, with how often the game randomly drops connection/crashes it's probably wise to divvy them out a bit.

you still getting the random drop crap?
mines been cleared up and fantastic for few days+ now and i almost feel like im in a brand new game lmao

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by Kaggy:

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not always worth it. And most of the time, everybody is carrying some. Unless you're playing with a coordinated group, it's rare for one guy to be handling all the samples.

Hell, with how often the game randomly drops connection/crashes it's probably wise to divvy them out a bit.

you still getting the random drop crap?
mines been cleared up and fantastic for few days+ now and i almost feel like im in a brand new game lmao

It has actually been a lot better yesterday and today. It seems like certain times the servers just decide to crap out. Probably during peak hours or something.

Also occasionally play with one friend who lives quite far away from the rest of us with pretty bad internet. We always seem to have more issues when we play with him.

[NoLifeDGenerate]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by 0x41414141:

Some common sense is needed if you are going to simplify things. Obviously the sample carrier needs to survive.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not always worth it. And most of the time, everybody is carrying some. Unless you're playing with a coordinated group, it's rare for one guy to be handling all the samples.

Hell, with how often the game randomly drops connection/crashes it's probably wise to divvy them out a bit.

Not really. I was routinely extracting with the super samples and 20ish rare ones every time. People tend to suck at spotting the rares. I also grabbed what I could from the bug nests whether I closed them or not. A lot of times you can find them around back of the nests and not have to aggro anything.

[Kaggy]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by Kaggy:

you still getting the random drop crap?
mines been cleared up and fantastic for few days+ now and i almost feel like im in a brand new game lmao

It has actually been a lot better yesterday and today. It seems like certain times the servers just decide to crap out. Probably during peak hours or something.

Also occasionally play with one friend who lives quite far away from the rest of us with pretty bad internet. We always seem to have more issues when we play with him.

hm, maybe try changing who hosts too

i host from central USA with a couple guys in the middle east and we dont have any issues (lately, i mean those first few weeks..we all suffered lol)

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by NoLifeDGenerate:

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Still doesn't change the fact that it's not always worth it. And most of the time, everybody is carrying some. Unless you're playing with a coordinated group, it's rare for one guy to be handling all the samples.

Hell, with how often the game randomly drops connection/crashes it's probably wise to divvy them out a bit.

Not really. I was routinely extracting with the super samples and 20ish rare ones every time. People tend to suck at spotting the rares. I also grabbed what I could from the bug nests whether I closed them or not. A lot of times you can find them around back of the nests and not have to aggro anything.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with here. I'm not saying it's not worth getting as much samples as you can, I'm saying there are situations where it's not worth wasting a bunch of time to go get your samples you dropped across the map while everything else is done. Unless it's a lot of rarer samples, you're just wasting time.

[NoLifeDGenerate]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by NoLifeDGenerate:

Not really. I was routinely extracting with the super samples and 20ish rare ones every time. People tend to suck at spotting the rares. I also grabbed what I could from the bug nests whether I closed them or not. A lot of times you can find them around back of the nests and not have to aggro anything.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with here. I'm not saying it's not worth getting as much samples as you can, I'm saying there are situations where it's not worth wasting a bunch of time to go get your samples you dropped across the map while everything else is done. Unless it's a lot of rarer samples, you're just wasting time.

You said it's rare for one guy to have all the samples. I usually did when I was playing. When I'm holding 20 of the 23 rares the team has and all the supers, I couldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ less who else extracts.

[Silverbird]

Idk, secondary objectives are the least useful unless they benefit you otherwise.
Requisition bucks and exp are useless currencys after level 20-25 because you already have all the useful strategems.

[CloversDrop]

If I get super samples, I take them to extract and drop them there, hold X to drop items if you didn't know.

Also type in chat "I'm dropping samples at extract"

Also if you have the 15 sample achievement, might be nice to drop them for someone else to get the achievement too.

[Tenebris]

Originally posted by Baelog:

Primary OBJ > Secondary/Bonus OBJ > Samples > Medals/Credits

The only Helldiver that needs to make it back are the ones carrying Samples. Medals and Credits are auto-added to your currency.

Swap Samples and Secondary/Bonus and you're correct, once you're around level 25, you should have basically every good Stratagem unlocked, and there are no more unlocks from level past 20, so exp and requisition are useless. The only reason you should seek out Secondaries is for the samples that might be near them, and the only reason to actually expend stratagems/grenade/ammo actually DOING secondaries if if they are tangibly useful to the mission. Like Radar/Artillery, or annoying if you let is stand, like Stalker Nest/Spore Tower/Stratagem Jammer