Spear use case

[Anticitizen 1]

What is this weapon actually good for? Honest question, I've been testing it on 4 where I use bad weapons for fun and it appears to be the worst AT bar none.
- Can't use it against structures
- Misses the charger coming towards you despite lockon
- General weird issues with lockons
- Appears to have issues locking on in low visibility
- Low lockon range
- Doesn't seem to OSK chargers
- Slow "pitching a tent" reload

I actually can't think of any worse ATGM I've used in any PvE or PvP game that has ATGMs than the Spear. Is this thing amazing against bots maybe?

[LØKi]

Spear is a great quick fak u anti-armor weapon. But it works 1/4 of the time. Doesn't lock on well, you have to be further from a target then normal, best in a straight line about 30-40 meters away. Oneshotting Titans and Chargers is so satisfying with it. But right now you need to check so many boxes before firing, that it's easier and faster just to use strategems or a railgun.

[dian (・∆・)]

Keep distance from chargers for it to work, it only 1 shots if you lock on the head so ppl have to kite towards u, also 1 shots bile titans, and hulks in the head(back too for hulk). The lock on is trash and needs a buff. If charger or bile titan survives it still peels armor from it so you can small arms kill.

If you just like the Javelin you will take it no matter what. If ur looking for efficiency, then like most other things in the game its dumpster tier.

[MechaDraco]

Ive been using the spear in 5 to 6 difficulty. It will target bot factories, and can 1 tap all of the big guys. It's 100% unusable agaisnt anything smaller than a charger, since it wont lock on, so it's made specifically to kill the big guys.

Sometimes you're right, it wont 1 tap a big guy, but it will more then likely rip it a new one, and if you got an ally with any kind of damage output, they should be able to finish the job.

It's a team weapon so the reload is faster if you actually use it as one. It can be used from anywhere on the map as long as you're able to get a line of sight on the target, not the easiest to use on some maps, since low visibility, but even smoke wont block its sight line.

Also, this weapon is shockingly supposed to be used in ADS. If you use this in ads, you'll notice a drastic difference in how much easier it is to get a lock on the enemy.

My biggest dislike for the weapon, is that even with ads, it can still be difficult to get a full lock, I've learned this is usually because of something blocking the target. Even if it's only a bit of terrain, and you can still clearly see the target. Usually can be fixed with a small shift in position though. The other problem is ammo replacement, and it's knack for wasting ammo packs on the ground that wont refill it. Only supply places will refil 1 shot of this.

More often then not what i do with this weapon, is i find a good overlook of the area were advancing in. A good distance in the back of the line where enemies wont see me, but i can still see my allies advance. Whenever something big shows up, i take it out immediately from 500 meters away. When we get to a bot base, i wipe all the cannon turrets out immediately, then start targeting the factories or any other big targets like hulks, or tanks.

Sometimes ill take out a strider or two just foe funsies.

[SESNut]

Originally posted by LØKi:

Spear is a great quick fak u anti-armor weapon. But it works 1/4 of the time. Doesn't lock on well, you have to be further from a target then normal, best in a straight line about 30-40 meters away. Oneshotting Titans and Chargers is so satisfying with it. But right now you need to check so many boxes before firing, that it's easier and faster just to use strategems or a railgun.

so what youre saying is, its not great

[mcSlothalot]

I personally like the Spear. In theory.
If it lands a good hit its super satisfying to use. It can even one shot a titan.
But unfortunately the lock-on system is kinda buggy/broken and doesn't work well enough. Half the time it doesn't register I am aiming at a valid target and sometimes the lock-on just disappears for no reason even if I stayed on target. I also only like to use it when we are a full squad since I have to carry a backpack for more ammo which means I have less defenses.

But right now there is no good reason to use it over any of the other ways to get rid of stronger enemies. They really need to fix the lock-on system. Make it faster, over a greater distance and more importantly make it work consistently without the weird issues.

[Myth Alric]

It is the best long range weapon for dealing with big stuff. It is most useful for helping your teammates when they are facing a big bad guy, and you are far away. For example if you split up to do objectives, you can still offer support to your ally at a neighboring objective.

In these cases the slow lock on speed and reload time isn't as big of an issue, since you are not shooting something attacking you, but your teammate. The weapon isn't very useful when you are being chased by something.

[Salvage]

if they fixed the lock on it would be god tier. sniping fabricators from a mile away always makes me laugh

[SESNut]

why would they fix this if the expendable is trash and literally only has one shot then you throw it away

[Xarko]

The lock on range is actually pretty damn good. Problem is the lock on system doesn't work with even the tiniest of obstructions.

[ImHelping]

If it was actually reliable, the use case would be "Emergency anti titan/tank button" even with the scummy resupply mechanics.

But it isn't reliable, so everyone bragging it is overpowered feels more like people getting lucky and not appreciating it, vs the reality of "Well, we had TWO Spear users and it is doing ♥♥♥♥ all, through no fault of theirs"

[LØKi]

Originally posted by SESNut:

Originally posted by LØKi:

Spear is a great quick fak u anti-armor weapon. But it works 1/4 of the time. Doesn't lock on well, you have to be further from a target then normal, best in a straight line about 30-40 meters away. Oneshotting Titans and Chargers is so satisfying with it. But right now you need to check so many boxes before firing, that it's easier and faster just to use strategems or a railgun.

so what youre saying is, its not great

It is trash and at the same time isn't. Schrödingers rocket launcher pretty much.

[dian (・∆・)]

Originally posted by SESNut:

why would they fix this if the expendable is trash and literally only has one shot then you throw it away

Because expendable isn't trash, and is actually A tier because of reliable armor peel while having low cool down. Railgun just has a special tier.

[LØKi]

Originally posted by SESNut:

why would they fix this if the expendable is trash and literally only has one shot then you throw it away

Expandable is okay, it's an early unlock, same properties as Recoiless. Drops with 2 "charges" and the cooldown is 70s by default, -10% with ship module.

[Prydjetu]

It buggy af not really worth the effort, unless they fix the tracking bug and ammo economy i probably won't bother with them.

There one good thing tho, this weapon have very good troll potential, if you shoot 4 times you can pick 4 box from resupply and dry your teammate from ammo. ( Trust me there alots of asshat that do this they might not pick 4 but they pick more than one for sure )

[ImHelping]

The reason you stop using the expendable isn't because the weapon itself is bad, but because the "My first videogame" minded debuffs remove all the benefits of the EAT with long cooldowns, randomizers, etc.

Sure, increased amounts of enemy spam doesn't help. But it is the debuffs that neuter it more and make people gamble with the Spear that comes with multiple shots on one call.