Liberation Points - how are they calculated ?

[Toothbrush Cheapwood]

Hey guys !

Do someone knows how planet points (at the end of one or the three missions) are calculated ? What is the maximum you can get ?

[Zombuddee[ZOMS]]

I've heard it's directly related to your star rating and then buffed/nerfed based on the percentage of wins other players are having on the same planet... but the front page of Google doesn't seem to know.

[Redline-1221]

I keep seeing people say that the progress shown is bugged. Some think it's per operation, others think it's based on XP earned during missions meaning Main Objective + Side Objectives + Factories/Bug Holes destroyed = more xp/liberation progress. Until the UI gets an update to reflect that, your guess is as good as mine. I remember in an earlier match some time last week when I finished an operation my squad got +21 progress to the liberation, then this week I don't see anything higher than the norm.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

XP gained times the population modifier of the game.

[Mulqueeny]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

XP gained times the population modifier of the game.

This. But I don't know the actual equation.

More XP more Democracy.

[Toothbrush Cheapwood]

Hey lads. This is a topic of the first days.

Here how it works.

Liberation points are given in the end of a whole campaign (usualy 3 missions or less into lower difficulties).
The more you complete the objectives (Blue sides, outposts, nests) the more you get points. Completing the missions full squad also count (4 players reached pelican 1).

AND the number you get at the end of this campaign can change with the total number of players in the game.

You know everything. Complete all (before the main objective preferably) then extract. 4 players extract is better. Extracting after 0 timer makes the value decrease.


You know everything.

[ObsidianKey]

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

Liberation Points - how are they calculated ?

Poorly.

[Faaxen]

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

Hey lads. This is a topic of the first days.

Here how it works.

Liberation points are given in the end of a whole campaign (usualy 3 missions or less into lower difficulties).
The more you complete the objectives (Blue sides, outposts, nests) the more you get points. Completing the missions full squad also count (4 players reached pelican 1).

AND the number you get at the end of this campaign can change with the total number of players in the game.

You know everything. Complete all (before the main objective preferably) then extract. 4 players extract is better. Extracting after 0 timer makes the value decrease.


You know everything.

Don't actually need to beat every mission within a cluster, points are given at the end of each mission.
It would be extremely infuriating to beat 2 missions at max difficulty just to fail the third one and be awarded 0 liberation for the previous wins.

[Toothbrush Cheapwood]

Originally posted by Faaxen:

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

Hey lads. This is a topic of the first days.

Here how it works.

Liberation points are given in the end of a whole campaign (usualy 3 missions or less into lower difficulties).
The more you complete the objectives (Blue sides, outposts, nests) the more you get points. Completing the missions full squad also count (4 players reached pelican 1).

AND the number you get at the end of this campaign can change with the total number of players in the game.

You know everything. Complete all (before the main objective preferably) then extract. 4 players extract is better. Extracting after 0 timer makes the value decrease.


You know everything.

Don't actually need to beat every mission within a cluster, points are given at the end of each mission.
It would be extremely infuriating to beat 2 missions at max difficulty just to fail the third one and be awarded 0 liberation for the previous wins.

You need indeed to complete the 3. If you do one mission like that, it's completly useless.

If you fail a mission on the 3 => 0 points.

Oh btw, there's a case where one mission count : Host migration. If the host of the campaign leaves, you get the liberation points of one mission.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

You need indeed to complete the 3. If you do one mission like that, it's completly useless.

If you fail a mission on the 3 => 0 points.

Oh btw, there's a case where one mission count : Host migration. If the host of the campaign leaves, you get the liberation points of one mission.

This is not true and never has been. It wasn't in helldivers 1 nor 2. At the end of every mission it literally shows you the point gained. What are you talking about.

It does not. It only shows you the point value at the completion of the operation.

2 cases where this is false.

1 When the host changes it can't reliably keep note of how many missions have been completed, so it just defaults to giving points per mission.

2 When the operation is only 1 mission long on very low difficulties.

[Toothbrush Cheapwood]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

You need indeed to complete the 3. If you do one mission like that, it's completly useless.

If you fail a mission on the 3 => 0 points.

Oh btw, there's a case where one mission count : Host migration. If the host of the campaign leaves, you get the liberation points of one mission.

This is not true and never has been. It wasn't in helldivers 1 nor 2. At the end of every mission it literally shows you the point gained. What are you talking about.

It is true, and was like that in helldivers 1. You, are talking about XP, not liberation points.

[FromChaosTheory]

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

This is not true and never has been. It wasn't in helldivers 1 nor 2. At the end of every mission it literally shows you the point gained. What are you talking about.

It is true, and was like that in helldivers 1. You, are talking about XP, not liberation points.

I think we may be confusing the words missions and operation. Are you talking about a single mission that you drop into as a mission? And an operations as the cluster of those 3 missions?
Every time I return to the ship I can see the stars we got from completing a mission going towards the liberation.

[FromChaosTheory]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

This is not true and never has been. It wasn't in helldivers 1 nor 2. At the end of every mission it literally shows you the point gained. What are you talking about.

It does not. It only shows you the point value at the completion of the operation.

2 cases where this is false.

1 When the host changes it can't reliably keep note of how many missions have been completed, so it just defaults to giving points per mission.

2 When the operation is only 1 mission long on very low difficulties.

I think we are confusing the terms "mission" and operation. Everytime I return to the ship the amount of stars we got is shown and the meter for liberation builds.
I'm calling a mission the entire map we drop into when we dive. I'm calling an operation the cluster of those missions that you can drop into. Are we talking about the same thing?
I'm not sure if we are just using different definitions.

[Toothbrush Cheapwood]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

It does not. It only shows you the point value at the completion of the operation.

2 cases where this is false.

1 When the host changes it can't reliably keep note of how many missions have been completed, so it just defaults to giving points per mission.

2 When the operation is only 1 mission long on very low difficulties.

I think we are confusing the terms "mission" and operation. Everytime I return to the ship the amount of stars we got is shown and the meter for liberation builds.
I'm calling a mission the entire map we drop into when we dive. I'm calling an operation the cluster of those missions that you can drop into. Are we talking about the same thing?
I'm not sure if we are just using different definitions.

Yes dude, we are talking the same language. The whole operation is all the missions in it. We call it also a campaign, if you prefer.

The 5 stars are not related to the points directly, if I can say.

Let me explain :

If you get 5 stars in a mission, it means you completed all the objectives : side quests (blue), main quest (orange), and all the outposts or nests (red)

But this do not mean you will get the maximum operation/campaign points. Because if a helldiver is missing in one mission, for exemple, you get 5 stars, but less points.

So in the end, you can get 5 stars in a mission, but this is not related or just partialy to the liberation points given at the end of a campaign. It's mostly an indicator of : "you did quite well"

[FromChaosTheory]

Originally posted by Toothbrush Cheapwood:

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

I think we are confusing the terms "mission" and operation. Everytime I return to the ship the amount of stars we got is shown and the meter for liberation builds.
I'm calling a mission the entire map we drop into when we dive. I'm calling an operation the cluster of those missions that you can drop into. Are we talking about the same thing?
I'm not sure if we are just using different definitions.

Yes dude, we are talking the same language. The whole operation is all the missions in it. We call it also a campaign, if you prefer.

The 5 stars are not related to the points directly, if I can say.

Let me explain :

If you get 5 stars in a mission, it means you completed all the objectives : side quests (blue), main quest (orange), and all the outposts or nests (red)

But this do not mean you will get the maximum operation/campaign points. Because if a helldiver is missing in one mission, for exemple, you get 5 stars, but less points.

So in the end, you can get 5 stars in a mission, but this is not related or just partialy to the liberation points given at the end of a campaign. It's mostly an indicator of : "you did quite well"

So from what I can find online. I was wrong about missions giving points out directly at the end of every mission. But I thought the stars were a way of tracking the max points at the end of the operation? Otherwise why do anything other then main obj and evac. I know there are other plus to doing them like XP and money but if you want to liberate a planet wouldnt that be faster? I thought in helldivers 1/2 you got less points for not completing every obj. (Liberation wise.)

[Gundug]

As far as I have been able to observe, Liberation Points seem not to take into account side objectives, but only the main objective. I have gotten the same points for completing an operation with all the objectives done in each mission, and an operation where I only did the main objective in each mission. The single greatest variable determining how many points are granted is the number of players online. An operation that grants 30 points at low population might only reward 10 at high population.

In terms of planetary liberation rate, it appears that the speed of operation completion is of primary importance. As far as I can determine, spending time to explore points of interest and complete side objectives seems only to benefit the player, not the overall campaign.