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HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Jet Pack is better than shield pack for bugs
I read the post stating that if you didnt have a shield pack for 8+ missions you'll be kicked. While i understand that for robots, I think that the jetpack is the much better option for termanids as not many bugs use projectiles and you'll be able to gain a lot of distance.

going in to clear a hive and then jetpacking out is incredibly useful, Going up on a large rock to avoid bugs is much better then a temporary shield. There have been countless times I've avoided being surrounded by bugs by just jumping up onto a rock.

Anyone else think the jetpack is better?

Edit: I had no idea The shield pack blocked CC which is incredibly powerful. But the manueverability of the jetpack is just too good for me. There is so much terrain you can jump over that just stops bug pathing so you dont get swarmed. The CC doesnt affect me because Im too far away already to get hit by it or im on a rock shooting down at them. The jetpack goes off of stamina so pair it with light armour with high stamina regen then its perfect.
Ultima modifica da DasBrot; 28 feb 2024, ore 8:54
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Energy Shield is boring. Jetpack is fun.

I like to go AM rifle with Jetpack. Pop up somewhere high to overwatch your team while they complete an objective, and you can easily cover them with snipes and stratagem calldowns.
It also completely befuddles enemies sometimes. You can lead a horde away from your team, jump to break LOS, and leave them lost somewhere else.

i'm sure the energy shield has its place at higher difficulties with broken armor, but 7 is very doable with a jetpack.
The only one decent alternative to the shield against bugs is the laser sentinel.
Depends on taste. But i think shield pack is unbeatable.
YOu can easily be hit and killed with a jetpack even mid flight and when you start an escape jump, the animation is slow enough for the bugs to oneshot you.

Shield can block melee too.
Ultima modifica da Nihil; 28 feb 2024, ore 8:50
Jump Pack is too OP. It should be removed from the game.
i do like jetpack for speedrunning, and yes i do like it for bug missions bc they really cant touch me as im blowing up all their eggs with the GL
you can't play with it. because it's not the meta
Messaggio originale di Kobi Blade:
Messaggio originale di Clive Hawkins:
The Laser Drone (on higher difficulties) ends up causing 10x more Bug Breaches as it attacks every single patrol you get close to. Not worth it at all.
I understand your point of view, but the Laser Pack has limited range, and by the time it starts shooting you are already visible, so your argument is not be very convincing.

I agree with the people who say the Laser Pack is much better than both the Packs OP mentioned, I’ve successfully completed multiple Helldive missions with it on Bug Planets, and I only used my ammo for the bigger targets, and the Laser Pack alone had over 500 kills.

However, I find it quite ineffective against bots, so I would recommend using the Shield Pack instead, as for Jump Pack is more useful in Planets where the terrain is difficult.

No, It's not. I experienced exact situation you two talking. Laser drone actually broke team's stealth by attacking patrol. patrol didn't notice us even right after drone's laser attacked it.
Messaggio originale di Malidictus:
Messaggio originale di DasBrot:
I think that the jetpack is the much better option for termanids as not many bugs use projectiles and you'll be able to gain a lot of distance.

You can gain some (not a lot) of distance once every 10 seconds or so. That's not much. Meanwhile the, Shield Backpack can save you from one-shots and block the slows which prevent you from gaining distance the old-fashioned way. If we could jump like in Helldivers, then sure - that would be worthwhile. As it stands right now? It's not a great choice.

This. Tried the jetpack yesterday, clearly nerfed.

A shield is so much better, even tho less, much less flashy.
Messaggio originale di jackar4444:
Messaggio originale di Kobi Blade:
I understand your point of view, but the Laser Pack has limited range, and by the time it starts shooting you are already visible, so your argument is not be very convincing.

I agree with the people who say the Laser Pack is much better than both the Packs OP mentioned, I’ve successfully completed multiple Helldive missions with it on Bug Planets, and I only used my ammo for the bigger targets, and the Laser Pack alone had over 500 kills.

However, I find it quite ineffective against bots, so I would recommend using the Shield Pack instead, as for Jump Pack is more useful in Planets where the terrain is difficult.

No, It's not. I experienced exact situation you two talking. Laser drone actually broke team's stealth by attacking patrol. patrol didn't notice us even right after drone's laser attacked it.

Ya, this isn't even uncommon. Very confusing that someone would argue against this.
jump pack can be fun, until you hit one of its annoyance, like trying to jump up a cliff, but it decide your goal wasnt the top of the cliff, and instead a small ledge in the middle and you just slide back down slowly.

or when you waste it in spots where you can climb normally with space,

or when you use it, but you land just after a ledge that drop, and then you break your leg because it did the little slowdown burst too early.

i really want to like the jump pack, but after using it for a while, it just gets too frustrating.
Shield is great against bot, but rover and shield against bugs is a crutch you dont need them.
Messaggio originale di Khloros:
Shield is great against bot, but rover and shield against bugs is a crutch you dont need them.

false, they let you be more aggressive. Saves you stims vs stalkers, and random bug pops.

To say it is a crutch is stupid. It lets you be aggressive. It helps with kiting, and saves you time.

Nothing beats it hands down. When you play hell dive, and get into a map with 2 to 3 stalker side objectives, the shield>anything else. That is a fact.
Ultima modifica da Rager; 28 feb 2024, ore 9:22
Messaggio originale di jackar4444:
Messaggio originale di Kobi Blade:
I understand your point of view, but the Laser Pack has limited range, and by the time it starts shooting you are already visible, so your argument is not be very convincing.

I agree with the people who say the Laser Pack is much better than both the Packs OP mentioned, I’ve successfully completed multiple Helldive missions with it on Bug Planets, and I only used my ammo for the bigger targets, and the Laser Pack alone had over 500 kills.

However, I find it quite ineffective against bots, so I would recommend using the Shield Pack instead, as for Jump Pack is more useful in Planets where the terrain is difficult.

No, It's not. I experienced exact situation you two talking. Laser drone actually broke team's stealth by attacking patrol. patrol didn't notice us even right after drone's laser attacked it.
The laser drone only engages when I’m in a firefight or detected, I usually play solo and the laser drone has never compromised my cover once.

So this is a clear user error on your side.
i just dont understand why its even in the game in its current state. it just barely gives you vertical mobility, and not very much at that. like, congrats, you got up a few rocks that you couldve avoided by simply walking a few extra seconds, bravo.
Messaggio originale di LazyAmerican:
I don't care what some "elite" poster puts here....I hate both jet pack and shield pack I'd rather have a support weapon that isn't the railgun.

There are plenty of Support weapons which both aren't a Railgun and don't require an ammo backpack.
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