Primary Weapons overall are fine.

[C4NNED]

There are complaints about primary weapons being too weak.
This is partially by design because Hell Divers is a COOP horde shooter. But also inspired by the movies and even basic military knowledge and doctrines. It wants you to stay close to your allies. Cover your team mates. Coordinate your fire. When your stratagems are exhausted and the team is falling apart it isn't because the primarys suck its because you guys are not playing as a team concentrating your fire and efficiently utilizing your primaries.

This is not to say some primaries need buffs. Just speaking about the overall implementation and the role that primaries have in this game.

[Chaos]

Yes, because you are meant to "uSe thE sTRatAgeM" and your primary are "oNlY pRimaRy iN a seNse tHat yOu SpAWn wItH onE"

[Parco]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Yes, because you are meant to "uSe thE sTRatAgeM" and your primary are "oNlY pRimaRy iN a seNse tHat yOu SpAWn wItH onE"

this is what happens when you use your stratagems properly and efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1YfBe30nc

[Kleiner's final Form]

This argument would have ground if all primaries gained effectiveness when you line up and concentrate fire. Somehow, I don't think the devs intended for you to use the sniper rifles to stand 100m across from a bug hole and spray it like a machine gun. I think that's what the machine guns are for.

[KZ]

There's a few complaints I understand, mainly attributes being mislabeled, or guns having too narrow a niche. The rest I don't get at all.

[vid23]

There are a lot of coop horde shooters where most of the guns dont suck balls

[vid23]

Originally posted by Parco:

Originally posted by Chaos:

Yes, because you are meant to "uSe thE sTRatAgeM" and your primary are "oNlY pRimaRy iN a seNse tHat yOu SpAWn wItH onE"

this is what happens when you use your stratagems properly and efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1YfBe30nc

This is pre patch gameplay but whatever

[TheDeadlyShoe]

well sometimes its because your primary sucks
like don't take a spray and pray into a bot mission unless you want to cry

[asura]

Originally posted by KZ:

There's a few complaints I understand, mainly attributes being mislabeled, or guns having too narrow a niche. The rest I don't get at all.

Actually this.

"You're supposed to shoot the Scyth at a vent"
Players: "What's a vent? You mean a weakspot? iT woN'T KiLL tHe ChArGEr."

[Valhalla Awaits]

Originally posted by C4NNED:

There are complaints about primary weapons being too weak.
This is partially by design because Hell Divers is a COOP horde shooter. But also inspired by the movies and even basic military knowledge and doctrines. It wants you to stay close to your allies. Cover your team mates. Coordinate your fire. When your stratagems are exhausted and the team is falling apart it isn't because the primarys suck its because you guys are not playing as a team concentrating your fire and efficiently utilizing your primaries.

This is not to say some primaries need buffs. Just speaking about the overall implementation and the role that primaries have in this game.

Except thats not true. Some primaries are very strong (Shotguns in general) and others are complete and total GARBAGE. (Rifles in general)

[Furia]

Originally posted by Parco:

Originally posted by Chaos:

Yes, because you are meant to "uSe thE sTRatAgeM" and your primary are "oNlY pRimaRy iN a seNse tHat yOu SpAWn wItH onE"

this is what happens when you use your stratagems properly and efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1YfBe30nc

that looks pre-patch... post patch Helldive bug breach = 1~2 bile titan. and the number of patrols seems too few. so is the detection range of the bug on him.

[vid23]

Originally posted by Furia:

Originally posted by Parco:

this is what happens when you use your stratagems properly and efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1YfBe30nc

that looks pre-patch... post patch Helldive bug breach = 1~2 bile titan. and the number of patrols seems too few. so is the detection range of the bug on him.

It is pre patch, end screen still counts the objectives one by one, rather than all at once

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Parco:

this is what happens when you use your stratagems properly and efficiently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1YfBe30nc

Okay I watch it for 10 mins...So the moral of the story is
"play pre-nerf, use meta strats, use light armor and run like hell until your strats are ready again"?
And what does this vid have to do with primary being crap is fine?

[John Digger]

Primary are not fine it's shotgun or nothing

[VoiD]

ITT good players using most weapons in the game get told how to play by bad players making wild claims that everything sucks even though they are the only ones having those issues.

[[ALT] RoseAilton]

Originally posted by ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️:

Primary are not fine it's shotgun or nothing

this is true. The most of the other primary weapons are usable, in the sense that they are not completely useless, but shotgunst have it all. You can snipe with a slugger, you can stagger. with most of them, and they do a lot of damage.

Assault rifles lack stopping power.
Marksman rifles are good if you are coordenating syncshots on a base, which is very situational with friends, imagine with randos
The submachinegun is the best imo after de shotguns. Comparative good handling with nice damage for its fire rate and mag.

Edit: grammar.. i think