Having support weapons and backpacks taking up a strat slot seems pretty redundant imo.

[Nexus]

Like... why not just have them as equitables from the start. Sure you could also bring the stratagem along if you for whatever reason really don't wanna go back to where you died but chances are by the time you get there all the bugs will be gone anyway.

I've only ever really seen people use equipment strats once and it's always at the beginning of the game and never again. There's no reason to because chances are if you died, you probably had a sample or two to grab anyway so you would get it back regardless.

Plus only having one of the support weapons given to you on drop (if you didn't take any backup support weapons strats) would encourage you to experiment with other weapons found around the map.

Idk. It just feels like a unnecessary waste of one or two slots because they're important to have but not that important to where you need to call down multiple in a single match.

[vid23]

The reason is because this way you can also give it to your teammates

[Mox]

I kinda agree....It would be nice to pre-equip the support weapon prior to drop, as it does seem kinda ridiculous to have to watch 4 helldivers spend the first 10-20 seconds of every round calling in their support weapon of choice. Whether is should be possible to equip one support weapon and bring another support weapon strat...Hmm...could be interesting, but would probably be abused within seconds of being implemented!

[Nexus]

Originally posted by vid23:

The reason is because this way you can also give it to your teammates

Idk about you but I usually see teams doubling up on the same support or backpack strat despite that fact

Not to mention, with the cool down how it is, there's a good chance you'll be done the mission before the rest of the team can get geared up

[Nexus]

Originally posted by Mox <<AD>>:

I kinda agree....It would be nice to pre-equip the support weapon prior to drop, as it does seem kinda ridiculous to have to watch 4 helldivers spend the first 10-20 seconds of every round calling in their support weapon of choice. Whether is should be possible to equip one support weapon and bring another support weapon strat...Hmm...could be interesting, but would probably be abused within seconds of being implemented!

I mean... I guess if you really don't wanna pick up a resupply for the ammo, you could take a support weapon strat along with the one given at the start but like... aside from that, there would really be no use to it.

Most use I could see is you picked the rail gun to start but could call in a GL or something when a swarm pops up but even then there's other ways of dealing with it

[vid23]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by vid23:

The reason is because this way you can also give it to your teammates

Idk about you but I usually see teams doubling up on the same support or backpack strat despite that fact

Not to mention, with the cool down how it is, there's a good chance you'll be done the mission before the rest of the team can get geared up

Thats just how playing with randoms are.
And you dont really need to plan on giving a backpack to everyone else, chances are as you said others will bring their preferred support weapons and what not, but this way if 2 people want to use the same thing, one of them can comfortably swap to something else

[Chaos]

Yeah, I don't mind the using strats slots for it if I want an extra just in case or to share for the teammate.
But I also would like an option to fully outfited my guy before the drop without using the strats slot, but have to take care of those gears since if it lost I can't call in a new one.

[SpottedHare]

Then you might not have to die 10 times in a row when a devastator or bile titan spawning in 2 seconds after you touch the ground.

[Mox]

Originally posted by Nexus:

I mean... I guess if you really don't wanna pick up a resupply for the ammo, you could take a support weapon strat along with the one given at the start but like... aside from that, there would really be no use to it.

Most use I could see is you picked the rail gun to start but could call in a GL or something when a swarm pops up but even then there's other ways of dealing with it

The weapon support strat could be used to provide support weapons for a second player so s/he doesn't need to spend a slot on as well ... but that would effectively mean that someone have an extra strat slot....maybe not the way to go?!

[Exdeath]

This are Team weapons

[Goblin]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Idk. It just feels like a unnecessary waste of one or two slots because they're important to have but not that important to where you need to call down multiple in a single match.

That is precisely why they are one of the best types of stratagems to take. One call down and they can last you the whole match. How are you seeing that as a negative?

[Ase Of Life]

Originally posted by Nexus:

Originally posted by vid23:

The reason is because this way you can also give it to your teammates

Idk about you but I usually see teams doubling up on the same support or backpack strat despite that fact

Not to mention, with the cool down how it is, there's a good chance you'll be done the mission before the rest of the team can get geared up

This. With such cool down time you can call support weapons and backpacks like twice in a mission. Technically may be more, like 3 or maximum 4 times, but in fact nobody do it this much - once or twice, no more. Waste of slot it is.

I think better way is to make one extra slot dedicated only to support stratagem. Want more (backpack for example)? Use other slots, no problem. You can even make bit bigger cool down for support strats if you so worried about those things to be abused.

[VoiD]

A good team could probably get away with using 2 weapons and 1~2 backpacks, if they coordinate well enough.

Just drop the first pair, equip, start moving to your missions (the "unarmed" could even use a mech too) as you wait for the cooldowns, then drop the next pair.

There you go, now everyone's armed, and you have more slots to bring orbital crap.

[Nexus]

Originally posted by Mox <<AD>>:

Originally posted by Nexus:

I mean... I guess if you really don't wanna pick up a resupply for the ammo, you could take a support weapon strat along with the one given at the start but like... aside from that, there would really be no use to it.

Most use I could see is you picked the rail gun to start but could call in a GL or something when a swarm pops up but even then there's other ways of dealing with it

The weapon support strat could be used to provide support weapons for a second player so s/he doesn't need to spend a slot on as well ... but that would effectively mean that someone have an extra strat slot....maybe not the way to go?!

That or they would also equip their preferred support weapon. No real reason to call one down less it's to try out a different one

[Nexus]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by Nexus:

Idk. It just feels like a unnecessary waste of one or two slots because they're important to have but not that important to where you need to call down multiple in a single match.

That is precisely why they are one of the best types of stratagems to take. One call down and they can last you the whole match. How are you seeing that as a negative?

You only need to call them down once and never again. There's no reason to do so. Hence why I said why not just let us equip them before we drop and use the remaining two stratagem slots for more utility

[Nexus]

Originally posted by VoiD:

A good team could probably get away with using 2 weapons and 1~2 backpacks, if they coordinate well enough.

Just drop the first pair, equip, start moving to your missions (the "unarmed" could even use a mech too) as you wait for the cooldowns, then drop the next pair.

There you go, now everyone's armed, and you have more slots to bring orbital crap.

This is assuming said teams communicate and whatnot. Idk about you but playing with randoms doesn't exactly bring that to the table.

Also something tells me the mech strat ain't gonna be a permanent bonus forever. It'll probably be swapped out with something else when the next content update gets added.