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weapons that need buffs: jar-5 dominator
i understand what arrowhead was going for with jar-5 dominator's design - a weapon that sacrifices recoil reduction, crowd control, aiming speed, and reloading speed for raw power, and i really like such an idea. however, the amount of dps (833.33) and reload dps (74.35) we currently get from jar-5 dominator is unremarkable and absolutely inadequate to all these sacrifices that'd otherwise be fitting, which is why i'm witnessing such a disappointment from those who tried this weapon, including myself.
at the moment, there's no reason to choose, for example, jar-5 dominator over mp-98 knight if u compare them:

mp-98 knight advantages:
- way superior crowd control
- way superior aiming
- way faster reload, even long reload is faster than jar-5's fast reload
- way superior dps at both short and long range if you are competent with handling the recoil

jar-5 dominator advantages:
- can do partial damage while shooting medium armor
- better reload dps

and even if you prioritize reload dps over normal dps, then there's no reason to pick jar-5 over r-63 diligence which has no said sacrifices (heavily impaired aiming speed + heavy recoil and what not) and still beats jar 5's ass in reload dps.
if you prioritize armor penetration then this weapon is beaten by sg-8s slugger, which not only has superior armor penetration, but does it while not giving the user a disbenefit of cumbersomeness, while also granting the user increased damage per shot in comparison to dominator and unique ability to reload without wasting previously loaded rounds.
plas-1 scorcher is yet another choice for armor penetration superior to jar-5 dominator while having none of jar-5's disbenefits while also giving aoe effect!
let alone comparing it to any of the breakers, which beat jar-5's ass so much in both normal dps AND reload dps, heavily outcompeting jar-5 in every category except far range dps and medium armor penetration.

don't get me wrong, i think that all of dominator's handling difficulties fit its design well, but i believe that buffing its damage is really needed to compensate for all of them, increasing its dps and reload dps, and therefore giving it power it was designed to have while balancing all the downsides it has.
i mean look at the shell casings it's ejecting. this thing should hit like a truck instead of being invalidated in every possible category, especially dps, by other weapons.
Last edited by BROTHER PHOBOS; Mar 26, 2024 @ 6:26am
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Katitoff Mar 9, 2024 @ 2:25pm 
You never played a singular mission against automatons, didn't you?

Dominator kills stalker walkers frontally and one-shots devastators.
It will also kill turrets, tanks and hulks when hitting vents.
74X9 Mar 9, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
+1 many weapons feels weak for now(
Midnight Mar 9, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
The wierd thing about Dominator is that it just seems to be objectively worse version of Scorcher. Much worse handling, slower reload, same ammo pool. Stats say it should do more damage but it doesn't seem to. In practice Scorcher does more damage to most things.

About the only thing it has over it is the fact that you can't kil yourself with it up close as far as I know.

Maybe that's the intent so it doesn't seem pay to win.
Albino Noodle Mar 9, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
I use it as my main but it does feel like it needs a bigger magazine and not to handle like an autocannon. one tapping those medium mechs in the face is something not many other weapons can do.
sel Mar 9, 2024 @ 4:44pm 
just got this weapon and after a few games I can confidently say its trash lmao
I thought the default assault rifle explosive variant was but holy ♥♥♥♥ this thing sucks balls.
I only play bugs right now however
edit: its actually worse against bots. cant even kill chainsaw dudes, with breaker I can kill 4 of them in one mag. why does this gun exist
Last edited by sel; Mar 9, 2024 @ 5:08pm
Harry.Taco Mar 9, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
I just bought the Jar 5 this morning and already I am back to the Breaker Incindiary.
Last edited by Harry.Taco; Mar 9, 2024 @ 4:54pm
sel Mar 9, 2024 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by Harry.Taco:
I just bought the Jar 5 this morning and already I am back to the Breaker Incindiary.
Same. I really hope they do something about the horrendous balance, none of these guns are fun to use or viable on high difficulties.
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Date Posted: Mar 9, 2024 @ 2:20pm
Posts: 7