Dev is openly mocking players on Reddit

[heng]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b7wc4z/patch_01000100_for_pc_balance_changes/ktlzaoc/

Yikes.

It seems to me that every change they've made has been to artificially handicap players in the most unfun way possible. Randomly resetting liberation percentage when players win more than they want, and then now this.

The only "brainy" way to play the game according to this dev is to infinitely kite elites on light armour until you take objectives, which can be done for sure. Heck, I've done it a few rounds experimenting with the Scythe on Helldive, and won, but the experience only made me want to stop playing.

Handicapping progression is what allows them to stretch out the little bit of content they developed so far over a very long period of time for the sake of their drip feed live service model. I cannot see another reason why the warbonds are so extremely barebones and requires so much grind, and why they'd choose to nerf interesting weapons people actually want to use.

The sorry state of modern gaming. The core gameplay is GOTY material for me but everything else have been handled in the worst possible way.

Edit:

I can't think of a single industry in which you could insult your customers just because they give negative feedback.

But somehow for video games, so many wind up developing a parasocial relationship with a studio, and I'd not have expected see people so militantly defending the devs like they could do no wrong, loudly decrying and mocking and belittling those who disagree with some major changes made

Edit 2:

CEO apologises and says that dev's behaviour was unacceptable. Good on you Pilestedt

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b8szge/pilestedt_responses_to_the_dev_comments/

[Midnight_Q]

Nguyên văn bởi Hand's Hermit Permit:

This dev has been incredibly based so far. Good that he's not backing down because some gamers can't hack it without crutches.

When the game is down to 1000 try hards and the rest have moved on, I'm sure they'll be glad you're still around to give them a mouth hug whenever another customer that paid as much as you voices dissatisfaction.

[Brohan Creates]

Nguyên văn bởi Salt Engineer:

Nguyên văn bởi Swaggaccino:

Reddit is the most simp and loyal place on the internet. The fact that the devs managed to turn Reddit against them with one patch and a few posts is a special feat in itself that will be studied in the future. Any% speedrun GOTY to bust.

Reddit is also one of the most toxic and easily triggered places on the planet where any words not in line with the community hivemind results in bans.

The most uprated upvotes in response come from people who regularly call other users idiots and drop threats... literally after posting in /r/Cuckhold. Feel free to investigate on your own if you don't believe me.

This "super loyal" group of whiners is a tiny percentage of the player base.

Bingo.

[Little Critter]

Nguyên văn bởi Hand's Hermit Permit:

Nguyên văn bởi PCRoco45:

Who even cares. How about the CEO announces to revert the nerfs from this patch.

Never happening. They were very clear with their vision for the game, and you being angry is no reason to reverse it.

“Just use stratagems.”

Modifiers : double call in time/increased cooldown

6 chargers 3 titans

Meanwhile in HD1: 1 shotting heavy armor with one shot of recoilless/disposables and upgraded rumblers taking out multiple heavies in a singular volley while thunderer barrage claps everything else…

[Aidenel]

Nguyên văn bởi Le Hatch:

Gamers: Will be toxic, complain, send death threats and the like when their crutch is broken.

Dev: Claps back in any regard.

Gamers: WTF THATS SO IMPROPER OF THEM.

lul, lmao.

Basically this. Spot on fellow Helldiver.

[Little Critter]

Nguyên văn bởi Aidenel:

Nguyên văn bởi Le Hatch:

Gamers: Will be toxic, complain, send death threats and the like when their crutch is broken.

Dev: Claps back in any regard.

Gamers: WTF THATS SO IMPROPER OF THEM.

lul, lmao.

Basically this. Spot on fellow Helldiver.

BF5 devs: Don't like it? Don't play it.
Gamers: Stops playing
BF5 devs: Wait, I was just joking.

[Truther]

Just a reminder STAR WARS: Battlefront Classic Collection is right around the corner. Let Helldivers 2 go out to pasture and die like Star field and so many others have.

[Midnight_Q]

Nguyên văn bởi EdibleChihuahua:

Nguyên văn bởi Aidenel:

Basically this. Spot on fellow Helldiver.

BF5 devs: Don't like it? Don't play it.
Gamers: Stops playing
BF5 devs: Wait, I was just joking.

The DICE surprised Pikachu moment was great. That is a studio that pulled the "we know better than our players" philosophy and hasn't made a good battlefield in over a decade as a result.

[LunarisRuin]

Nguyên văn bởi Foxtrot 813:

Nguyên văn bởi Le Hatch:

Gamers: Will be toxic, complain, send death threats and the like when their crutch is broken.

Dev: Claps back in any regard.

Gamers: WTF THATS SO IMPROPER OF THEM.

lul, lmao.

What a strawman, gamers aren't a hive mind entity.

Could've fooled me. Just look at these forums, for example. Any forum, any game.

Gamers remind me of the Zerg from Starcraft.

[Rager]

Getting mocked by developers who can't even balance a game, or understand what makes the game fun for many people is a badge of honor. What a joke.

We enjoy blowing things up, and we want hell dive to be massive amount of things to blow up, and reward us for doing it.

Instead, you give crappy tools that does not handle the job well, even with "team work." your answer is to use stratagems even though they have like 100 percent longer cd on harder modes. Like how clueless is this guy?

So you design the game so poorly, that the best team work is to kite the mobs away and not kill them.


Dragon Dogma 2 needs to hurry up.

[Fang]

Nguyên văn bởi Rager:

Getting mocked by developers who can't even balance a game, or understand what makes the game fun for many people is a badge of honor. What a joke.

We enjoy blowing things up, and we want hell dive to be massive amount of things to blow up, and reward us for doing it.

Instead, you give crappy tools that does not handle the job well, even with "team work." your answer is to use stratagems even though they have like 100 percent longer cd on harder modes. Like how clueless is this guy?

So you design the game so poorly, that the best team work is to kite the mobs away and not kill them.


Dragon Dogma 2 needs to hurry up.

Eyyy, fellow Dragon's Dogma enjoyer <3

[Rampage]

Never getting another game from this Dev thats for sure, how high on one’s own farts can they get sheesh

[Great White Bat]

Gamers are viscous, rude, trolling, send death threats, the works. Devs push back a little bit and all of a sudden it's a crime. Get out of here with this crap.

[TneX]

Nguyên văn bởi Caduryn:

Nguyên văn bởi heng:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b7wc4z/patch_01000100_for_pc_balance_changes/ktlzaoc/

Yikes.

It seems to me that every change they've made has been to artificially handicap players in the most unfun way possible. Randomly resetting liberation percentage when players win more than they want, and then now this.

The only "brainy" way to play the game according to this dev is to infinitely kite elites on light armour until you take objectives, which can be done for sure. Heck, I've done it a few rounds experimenting with the Scythe on Helldive, and won, but the experience only made me want to stop playing.

Handicapping progression is what allows them to stretch out the little bit of content they developed so far over a very long period of time for the sake of their drip feed live service model. I cannot see another reason why the warbonds are so extremely barebones and requires so much grind, and why they'd choose to nerf interesting weapons people actually want to use.

The sorry state of modern gaming. The core gameplay is GOTY material for me but everything else have been handled in the worst possible way.

Edit:

I can't think of a single industry in which you could insult your customers just because they give negative feedback.

But somehow for video games, so many wind up developing a parasocial relationship with a studio, and I'd not have expected see people so militantly defending the devs like they could do no wrong, loudly decrying and mocking and belittling those who disagree with some major changes made

Edit 2:

CEO apologises and says that dev's behaviour was unacceptable. Good on you Pilestedt

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1b8szge/pilestedt_responses_to_the_dev_comments/

The Playerbase of Gaming in general is 1 million times more toxic then all Developers together.

What about that?

There are several times more players than developers. Since we are talking about much higher number, the chance of having toxic people among players is significantly higher. And, as we know, toxic players can be *very* vocal. You don't see the respectful playerbase, becasue they remain silent, but they exist.

That is why just because there are toxic players, you can't lump all of the players together, and so it doesn't mean it is a green light for developers to sink to their level. If they do that, that means they lost, and they are doing something stupid and easily avoidable.

[Caduryn]

Nguyên văn bởi Rampage:

Never getting another game from this Dev thats for sure, how high on one’s own farts can they get sheesh

No matter how high, nothing beats the insane toxity the Playerbase has become over the Years.

But that doesnt matter.... right?

[Jackson Lamb]

Nguyên văn bởi A Bunny:

The ones enjoying the game and accomplishing things through teamwork in the harder difficulties aren't here complaining.

It's just the vocal minority ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about everything, as they always do, in every subject, game, movie, and other franchise.

And the Devs of HD2 know it.

I hope they keep clapping back.

"Clapping back" Cringe.