The Railgun is Still Good... Why the Moaning?

[The Hof]

So I've run Helldive missions almost exclusively since I unlocked them - I don't farm or anything, I just enjoy playing that difficulty. I also really like railguns in general, so I gravitated towards the Railgun as a weapon as soon as I unlocked it.

Naturally, seeing the outpouring of vitriol that accompanies the drop of a hat these days, I figured I would try my old setup (Shield Backpack and Railgun) versus the Automatons, the faction said setup is most effective against.

I found... no change. The Railgun still kills Hulks when you aim for their heads, it still kills Devastators, it still kills Walkers... I don't notice anything significantly different about its performance. Same for the shield - I don't expect it to make me invincible. I just want to absorb a few more hits while I'm lining up a Railgun shot.

The Railgun is still great. The shield is still great. Why all the nonsense in the forums?

EDIT for April - Not sure why this thread has been revived. As many others have said, the Railgun is now one of several options, the Anti-Materiel Rifle being one of these. I still use it against the Automatons and I still find it to be an excellent weapon, but it's not the best option out there - and that's a good thing. Build diversity has exploded since I originally made this thread and I'm very happy about that.

[Mistress Creamy Pancakes]

People just want to hate, simple as. These nerfs are very tame. The railgun is just as good as before when overcharged and the breaker was nerfed very little in its maximum output. I honestly can't feel any difference in the shield myself but then again I wasn't relying on it every mission. Just wait till people figure out how good the lasercannon is....

[Sorrode]

Originally posted by The Hof:

So I've run Helldive missions almost exclusively since I unlocked them - I don't farm or anything, I just enjoy playing that difficulty. I also really like railguns in general, so I gravitated towards the Railgun as a weapon as soon as I unlocked it.

Naturally, seeing the outpouring of vitriol that accompanies the drop of a hat these days, I figured I would try my old setup (Shield Backpack and Railgun) versus the Automatons, the faction said setup is most effective against.

I found... no change. The Railgun still kills Hulks when you aim for their heads, it still kills Devastators, it still kills Walkers... I don't notice anything significantly different about its performance. Same for the shield - I don't expect it to make me invincible. I just want to absorb a few more hits while I'm lining up a Railgun shot.

The Railgun is still great. The shield is still great. Why all the nonsense in the forums?

The entire time people are complaining about railgun and chargers, no one even mentioned the bots

[VOLUME SHOOTER]

RAILGUN IS ASS

[Sorrode]

Originally posted by Mistress Creamy Pancakes:

People just want to hate, simple as. These nerfs are very tame. The railgun is just as good as before when overcharged and the breaker was nerfed very little in its maximum output. I honestly can't feel any difference in the shield myself but then again I wasn't relying on it every mission. Just wait till people figure out how good the lasercannon is....

Saying 'just as good' when it got a 100% increase in time to kill is straight delusional

[wifeburger]

cuz it sets a bad precedent that the devs don't understand why the things that are "Meta" are being picked in the first place. only so much you can learn just from staring at data and not actually playing the game or talking to the playerbase.

[DespotAspid]

Nerf of fun. HD2 RIP beginning.

[The Hof]

Originally posted by Sorrode:

The entire time people are complaining about railgun and chargers, no one even mentioned the bots

There have always been better choices versus the Terminids. I usually bring a Recoilless Rifle and fill the other three stratagem slots with Railcannon, Cluster Bomb and 500KG Bomb.

[WastingSanity]

You don't break what works, you fix what doesn't, The next meta build that appears will be nerfed as well.

[DespotAspid]

Originally posted by WastingSanity:

You don't break what works, you fix what doesn't, The next meta build that appears will be nerfed as well.

This is the path to decay. Nerf of fun.

[The Hof]

Originally posted by DespotAspid:

Nerf of fun. HD2 RIP beginning.

I remember people were saying this before the release over one thing or another (monetization, anti-cheat, take your pick)... and the game ended up a ridiculous success. I feel like it will continue to be without you people.

[Chaos]

Railgun vs bots have always been good and there are no real change here.
Issue mostly come from the bugs side as they love to spam HEAVY ARMOR units.

[slantingturtle]

Originally posted by Senjuice:

RAILGUN IS ASS

Yep, feels like they cut the damage by 40%, can't even 1 shot bile spewers with a headshot anymore, congrats on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the most fun support weapon. high powered single shot precision weapons with a long reload should be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ powerful, charging it till you almost explode and firing feels like it's still on safe mode now. The gun was fun and satisfying when you were able to pop targets every shot, now anything above a hunter feels like you're using 2 or 3, chargers take 4 to the leg to deshell now. The fun of the gun is just gone for me and there's no other gun that fills the 1 shot 1 kill nuke damage role that is use to serve, bring the damage back and nerf the magazine, or give it aim shake the higher the charge before you fire. Nerfing its damage just makes it feel pointless for the role that it serves and there's no alternative weapon that fills the same niche. I don't want to use other support guns, the railgun is the gun i wanted before I even played the game and the feel of it has been destroyed for me.

[The Hof]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Railgun vs bots have always been good and there are no real change here.
Issue mostly come from the bugs side as they love to spam HEAVY ARMOR units.

But the Railgun was never amazing at dealing with those units either - it's best versus medium-armoured units. Recoilless Rifles and Spears are better choices versus both Chargers and Bile Titans.

[Hand]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Railgun vs bots have always been good and there are no real change here.
Issue mostly come from the bugs side as they love to spam HEAVY ARMOR units.

you cant even penetrate chargers with the railgun in unsafe....how is it not that bad?
from what i seen a RAILGUN ROUND can now bounce off

[Sorrode]

Originally posted by The Hof:

Originally posted by Sorrode:

The entire time people are complaining about railgun and chargers, no one even mentioned the bots

There have always been better choices versus the Terminids. I usually bring a Recoilless Rifle and fill the other three stratagem slots with Railcannon, Cluster Bomb and 500KG Bomb.

Recoilless is good until there's 2 chargers, then it is unuseable
And it still have worse ammo economy than railgun post nerf(railgun refills 10 shot/3 chargers legs per reload)
It is useable, somewhat, but obviously to most player as a worse pick