Devs confirm players don't know what a primary weapon is

[asura]

Many have commented that they aren’t powerful enough and are unable to deal with all the enemies either by the amount of ammunition required or their raw DPS. This is very much intentional, you need to rely on your Stratagems, and the Stratagems of your team to deal with all the enemies effectively. Either by Eagle Airstrikes, Orbitals, Support Weapons, or Turrets, some of your loadout/team should be tailoring their loadout to killing the weaker stuff more efficiently.

So yeah you're not supposed to kill everything with a breaker and people doing this/complaining about this are literally #doinitwrong

For the crowd out there that says "Support weapons should just be your primary weapons. Primary weapons don't do damage" - you are correct in thinking, wrong in words. Your sidearm is your sidearm and your primary is just a bigger sidearm to take out close-and-personal adds. Support weapons are what you're supposed to be using along with stratagems for taking out the hordes. Ideally you would have a clean-up-crew protecting the heavy gunner, the heavy gunner is geared with an EAT, etc.

https://www.arrowheadgamestudios.com/2024/03/balancing-the-firepower-in-helldivers-2/

[Tartknocker2k]

that's great since not "heavy gunner" can carry enough ammo to kil more than a couple chargers and they spawn in groups

[Zheppon]

oh sure let me rely on my stratagem that have long cool down and with heavy modifier making it longer, truly genius what can i expect from people who play only trivial

[Brad]

Yeah people cry about not being able to kill all the enemies on harder difficulties and that you MUST use stealth sound like they're not playing as a team or have very bad team playstyle and setup.

So many matches I've played on higher difficulty with randoms everybody runs with heavy weapons (railgun) and I'm typically the only person using a trash clearing weapon like the GL and turrets.

I'll typically run with turrets and GL while my sister that I play with will run heavy weapons and airstrikes. If we encounter bugs she'll call down an airstrike at the same time I call down a turret which deals with 90% of the enemies while I cover/reload my sister while she's taking out heavy enemies, we mop up any small guys before they can call in a bug breach and we move on. Ocassionally you need to rely on stealth if your key stratagems are on cooldown but it's maybe for 10% of the match.

[Kalenath]

Originally posted by Tartknocker2k:

that's great since not "heavy gunner" can carry enough ammo to kil more than a couple chargers and they spawn in groups

Well, far be it from ME to suggest teamwork in a co-op game...

[rdkehoe]

Originally posted by asura:

you need to rely on your Stratagems

yea my 5 min cooldown stratagem vs the 15 Chargers at any given time. Suuuuuure.

[Oni-Lyrics]

Devs also turned an ini.file change into 1gb lol

[Anzaman]

Originally posted by Kalenath:

Originally posted by Tartknocker2k:

that's great since not "heavy gunner" can carry enough ammo to kil more than a couple chargers and they spawn in groups

Well, far be it from ME to suggest teamwork in a co-op game...

The game might be co-op focused, but community seemingly is not.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Tartknocker2k:

that's great since not "heavy gunner" can carry enough ammo to kil more than a couple chargers and they spawn in groups

How many rockets did the rocoiless have? 6? I don't remember.

Anyway, that would be enough for 6 chargers, you could blast a paw in 1 shot then finish it off with anything else.

A railgun could deal with 10 chargers in quick sucession, 2 shots for each one (leg), then repeat the same process.

Considering you have 4 teamates, if nobody is troling you chould potentially deal with 24(?)~40 chargers in quick sucession before you had to reload.

Titans can be trickier, hitting the same body part (forehead, often, mouth is hard to aim) is a lot harder, a titan will often die to a couple of railgun shots, or you'll spend half your ammo landing at the wrong spots before it's dead.

Oh, also, that's just kills from regular ammo, we're not counting orbitals, turrets and eagles.

PS: I realize that most weapons take too long to reload to be viable without a teamate, I'm just pointing out that a decent team with decent unlocks could kill a lot more than "a couple" of chargers.

Hell, most players in dif9 split from the team to solo complete objectives and they often kill dozens of chargers (and titans) on their own while doing little minigames for the objectives or look for supercredits on the map.

[Anzaman]

Originally posted by VoiD:

How many rockets did the rocoiless have? 6? I don't remember.

Looking at the backpack, it can fit 5 shots. So 5 + 1 in the gun.

[asura]

Originally posted by Zteckzilla:

oh sure let me rely on my stratagem that have long cool down and with heavy modifier making it longer, truly genius what can i expect from people who play only trivial

If you need help with trivial:
- You can bring more than one
- More than one helldiver can bring more than one
- You can collect your dropped support weapon after you die
- Teammates can technically share weapons if you see above
- Run away and regroup, repeat

[Polar Test 53]

they say things like they want the breaker to be strong like in the first game.
but then say primarys arnt supposed to be that strong?

people just wanted more guns to feel as effective as the breaker is as a primary. but in their own ways which i guess was not so obvious. but oh no apparently everyone just wants primarys to be super good. and we dont know ♥♥♥♥ after using these things for a few weeks.
the buffs were good they were just too few of them.

the people who say helldive is impossible without certain gear are just wrong i never used the meta and do helldive very well. not even the group i play with used the railgun.
its about the teamwork truly.
but everyone i matchmake with just use's the same damn loadout.
fricking light armour, breaker, smg pistol and railgun or GL
with a few outliers