Railgun nerf is bad for the game.

[Jiffypop]

I don't care what you try to say about the "meta" or anything. I don't care for the meta. I'm not a breaker fanboy, I rarely use shield, and I didn't run light armor when it was nothing but beneficial. But the railgun nerf is absurd. It shows Arrowhead's mindset when it comes to "balancing" in a PVE game.

Is something too powerful, and thus gets constantly used? Redesign the reason it's being used (chargers). Chargers are absurdly fast, have unlimited stamina, are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ SILENT, can turn a 180 on a DIME, and are usually instant kills due to ragdolling. And of course, there's literally no reasonable way to kill them other than a rail gun, nuke, orbital railcannon, or a spear. Three out of four of those being incredibly inconsistent and hard to use for an enemy that spawns enmasse at higher difficulties.

Or, even better, buff other weapons. Give the spear more ammo and make it ACTUALLY lock on. Make the recoiless and EAT do actual damage instead of just flop against literally anything. Have the arc thrower do some real damage, or make them weak from the ass for real.

But no, buffing several weapons is too much work. Just hard nerf the one gun and leave it at that. Speaks volumes to Arrowhead given the fact that there's still so many game breaking bugs and issues in the game like unpickupable samples and science containers, or getting shoved through the floor.

Like come on man. Helldive isn't fun on bugs anymore. It's just annoying and boring since we all HAVE to bring nukes now, and now we just have to endlessly kite chargers about if we're out of ammo. And shields are pretty much a must now too. Just moved the meta from one to another.

Undo the nerf.

[Happy Helldiver]

i think them saying it was "overused" is their way of saying "people are being toxic ♥♥♥♥ holes to other players not running it" and either way in both cases nerf it to the ground. If you don't have fun because you can't kill a charger without a railgun, you are pretty bad at the game and should honestly stop playing it.

[Jiffypop]

Originally posted by Happy Camper:

i think them saying it was "overused" is their way of saying "people are being toxic ♥♥♥♥ holes to other players not running it" and either way in both cases nerf it to the ground. If you don't have fun because you can't kill a charger without a railgun, you are pretty bad at the game and should honestly stop playing it.

You're the exact kind of person you've just described as bad.

Tell me, how do you deal with chargers? And don't say something like "eurh I call ehm rail cannon strike on it!" because you only get one of those every two minutes.

[Mandalorian Deathknight]

and the railgun can deal with the chargers in unsafe mode

[Jiffypop]

Originally posted by Mandalorian Deathknight:

and the railgun can deal with the chargers in unsafe mode

Not true. Or at least not consistently. I fully charged eight rail gun shots into the leg of a charger before it broke. Each shot did hit as denoted by either a ricochet (3 bounced off despite a full charge in unsafe mode), or an orange hole in the leg.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

It is not bad for the game. The devs have already explained this. It makes the game very stale very fast when you have to choose between the good weapon, and the fun weapons.

It didn't matter how much you buffed the other guns, nothing was going to match the power and versatility of the railgun.

[Jiffypop]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

It is not bad for the game. The devs have already explained this. It makes the game very stale very fast when you have to choose between the good weapon, and the fun weapons.

It didn't matter how much you buffed the other guns, nothing was going to match the power and versatility of the railgun.

Then make the other guns match the power and versatility of the railgun. It's literally that simple. Or, better yet, make it so the enemy that the railgun counters can be killed by other weapons. Make it so the railgun ISN'T a need, but a want for how it works. Again, it is that simple.

[Howl]

Meta Slaves are bad for the game too, this combats those so its a win and is making the game better

[Drogoran]

Originally posted by Jiffypop:

Originally posted by Happy Camper:

i think them saying it was "overused" is their way of saying "people are being toxic ♥♥♥♥ holes to other players not running it" and either way in both cases nerf it to the ground. If you don't have fun because you can't kill a charger without a railgun, you are pretty bad at the game and should honestly stop playing it.

You're the exact kind of person you've just described as bad.

Tell me, how do you deal with chargers? And don't say something like "eurh I call ehm rail cannon strike on it!" because you only get one of those every two minutes.

smack a recoiless or expendable round into the leg and finish with small arms fire

[Agent Sandman]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

It is not bad for the game. The devs have already explained this. It makes the game very stale very fast when you have to choose between the good weapon, and the fun weapons.

It didn't matter how much you buffed the other guns, nothing was going to match the power and versatility of the railgun.

the good weapons are what keep me and my team alive on high difficulties which we have to run to upgrade our ship. As much as I like running the fun weapons, they either get me killed or more importantly, dramatically increase the time it takes to complete a mission. I think other weapons should have been buffed...too many are either too niche or just not effective enough.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Jiffypop:

Then make the other guns match the power and versatility of the railgun. It's literally that simple.

So aside from making every weapon the Railgun, how would one go about this?

Give everything max armor pen?

[SirSmokeALot "Raptor" [505th]]

Originally posted by Happy Camper:

i think them saying it was "overused" is their way of saying "people are being toxic ♥♥♥♥ holes to other players not running it" and either way in both cases nerf it to the ground. If you don't have fun because you can't kill a charger without a railgun, you are pretty bad at the game and should honestly stop playing it.

you just complained about toxic a holes but say people should stop playing the game bc they suck, which is exactly the same as the people kicking people for not using meta builds, are u just stupid or a troll?

[Doge Vandire]

the railgun nerf would have been okay if they actually buffed the squad weapons.
The Spear targeting just flat out doesnt work half the time.
The recoilless is just bad.
The autocannon does diddly ♥♥♥♥ against armor.
The expendable has too long a cooldown to be useful.

[Mr. Bix]

i disliked the railgun from the moment i first tried it when they gave it to everyone for free, so i run spear to deal with chargers because it OHKOs them (and bile titans) on a headshot (which is very easy to get, all you need is for it to be chasing you from a distance the rocket won't miss at)

i pack the railcannon and sometimes rocket pods for those moments when the spear isn't viable and my role in any team is usually pure anti-armor

they also stealth buffed the spear by making it able to get ammo from ammo boxes

[RedPepper93]

Originally posted by Happy Camper:

i think them saying it was "overused" is their way of saying "people are being toxic ♥♥♥♥ holes to other players not running it" and either way in both cases nerf it to the ground. If you don't have fun because you can't kill a charger without a railgun, you are pretty bad at the game and should honestly stop playing it.

of course, because you decide who should play it and who should now.

[Zipcouda]

Lol. Chargers have a great mechanic where if they 'hit' something when charging they become 'stunned'. I know this is a feature many people are unaware of since their do all super gun cant 2 shot in safe mode anymore.

Just quit. Clearly this game is to hard for you.