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Heineken Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:54am
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New nerfs made all guns boring.....
The beginning of the end? Why do devs do this.
Considering the only usable gun that was any fun was the breaker and now its been nerfed to the ground...
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Sid Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:57am 
It made sense to nerf the railgun. Just not now, and certainly not without significant buff to other weapons/strategy. Right now they're just driving everyone to the arc instead.

Same goes for breaker. Everyone still uses breaker because every other weapon feels like shooting blanks.
Last edited by Sid; Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:57am
Hika Elm Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:58am 
Laser canon and Flamethrower became cool.
One load of flame kills a charger.
YuiTatsuki Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:59am 
Breaker was called the meta, of course, partly because it was powerful, but also because many other weapons were not powerful enough.
If they were going to nerf Breaker they should have at least buffed a few other primary weapons...
The Marksman rifles are too unwieldy, MP-98 suffers from hyperactivity, and the laser rifle is ...... what is this?
Last edited by YuiTatsuki; Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:02am
Yu Ryujin Mar 6, 2024 @ 4:59am 
Originally posted by Sid:
It made sense to nerf the railgun. Just not now, and certainly not without significant buff to other weapons/strategy. Right now they're just driving everyone to the arc instead.

Same goes for breaker. Everyone still uses breaker because every other weapon feels like shooting blanks.
this is untrue. There is same or better guns out there depending on the way you want to play, the breaker is just the easiest to use.

The nerf are actually not nerfs tho, more like "if you know how to play nothing will change."

other guns needed buffs to have more variety.
Last edited by Yu Ryujin; Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:00am
Lunaire Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Hika Elm:
Laser canon and Flamethrower became cool.
One load of flame kills a charger.
Well technically because of how the flamer works: it can kill an infinite numbers of chargers with just one canister. It already could pre-buff btw. This just made it even more powerful.
KZ Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:03am 
Even guns they didn't change are boring? Interesting.
Anzaman Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by Heineken:
Considering the only usable gun that was any fun was the breaker and now its been nerfed to the ground...
Huh? It lost 3 ammo, they didn't even touch it's killing power.
Heineken Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by KZ:
Even guns they didn't change are boring? Interesting.

Yes what game have you been playing???
Kalenath Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:
Originally posted by Sid:
It made sense to nerf the railgun. Just not now, and certainly not without significant buff to other weapons/strategy. Right now they're just driving everyone to the arc instead.

Same goes for breaker. Everyone still uses breaker because every other weapon feels like shooting blanks.
this is untrue. There is same or better guns out there depending on the way you want to play, the breaker is just the easiest to use.

The nerf are actually not nerfs tho, more like "if you know how to play nothing will change."

other guns needed buffs to have more variety.

'If you know how to play...'

Many people do not, because they couldn't be bothered to learn. Railgun and Breaker were simply too good to take anything else when you didn't want to bother with actual game mechanics. Why bother learning weak spots when the railgun just shoots through targets? Why bother aiming when Breaker hits everything at sniper rifle ranges with perfect accuracy?

Some of us actually like challenges in video games. Silly that, I know, but still, we do.
Snootch Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by Heineken:
The beginning of the end? Why do devs do this.
Considering the only usable gun that was any fun was the breaker and now its been nerfed to the ground...

Nothing about the changes to the Breaker makes it sound worse. So what it has A LITTLE bit more recoil and a couple of magazines taken away. It's still just as strong. Gun Meta's are stupid anyway, they need to balance the guns around situational use and not making it so one thing is better than everything.

Even though I use basically everything except the Meta and don't have any troubles even when Solo fighting Bile Titans. I think people just expect their gear to make them good at the game instead of actually trying to get better and improve.
Thorveim Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:25am 
"all guns" were the only 2 overperforming guns fun at all for you? if so, maybe you should look outside the meta blinders. Plenty of other weapons are viable if you give them the time to learn to use them to their full potential
Kopejka Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Heineken:
Considering the only usable gun that was any fun was the breaker and now its been nerfed to the ground...

3 less ammo = nerfed to the ground

got it
Originally posted by Snootch:
Originally posted by Heineken:
The beginning of the end? Why do devs do this.
Considering the only usable gun that was any fun was the breaker and now its been nerfed to the ground...

Nothing about the changes to the Breaker makes it sound worse. So what it has A LITTLE bit more recoil and a couple of magazines taken away. It's still just as strong. Gun Meta's are stupid anyway, they need to balance the guns around situational use and not making it so one thing is better than everything.

Even though I use basically everything except the Meta and don't have any troubles even when Solo fighting Bile Titans. I think people just expect their gear to make them good at the game instead of actually trying to get better and improve.
They never balanced the guns around a meta, they just capsized the value of situational weapons by making heavy armor the one universal situation to deal with.
And you need to understand, presenting yourself as being in the skill bracket of "solo fighting Titans" in a debate on the demerits of using the one titan-killer that doesn't have literal auto-aim, doesn't bode well for your credibility. I hope you said this to appease the human slugs that call everything a skill issue, rather than a conscious attempt at making your opinion more credible.
Kharn the Bloody Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by Hika Elm:
Laser canon and Flamethrower became cool.
One load of flame kills a charger.

Flamethrower won't be viable until the Devs add a slow effect. At least for me. I'm bathing the smaller bugs in flame and they STILL sprint at full speed or fly(wont their wings be ON FIRE??) on me and the bug, thats on fire, moves fast enough to bump into me and catch ME on fire? Seriously? And YES, I'm walking backwards.
Narky Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:29am 
The breaker was not the only "good primary". It was the most overtuned and easiest to use.

I've been using the SG-8S Slugger for a while now and it's by far not a bad primary. It's probably my favorite [plus it can reliably 'snipe' and pop weakspots on things like Devastators].
Last edited by Narky; Mar 6, 2024 @ 5:32am
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