So... The Railgun.

[Grimno]

Can it still blow off Charger leg armor in 2 shots so we can kill them?
Was the entire reason I was using the railgun, to deal with the Chargers and how frequently they show up.

[John Halodiver]

Originally posted by Voodoo:

Originally posted by KKSM1 - TASTE OF LIBERTEA:

HD1 is different that it's a top down view game that can show so much more info than what we have now. playing stealth in third person view is extremely hard because you don't have enough info on where the bugs are and where you can run for your life. running pass a hill crest and only to find a new horde of patrols ahead of you is very very possible in HD2 but not in HD1.

You actually have much bigger line of sight and radar, hd2 gives you far more info about enemy movement and range.

the bugs on HD1 were easily avoidable, and you can run away much easier than HD2, because it's basically a plain without hills and trees. So once if you're out of distance without line of sight, you're safe. But with HD2 it's much different, they move faster than you (smaller bugs), they track you if they have the line of sight. Trees and buildings wouldn't block your view in HD1 as well.

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by Wulfen:

Originally posted by Grimno:

Oh cool so the gun is now absolutely useless

No, you just need to charge it past safe mode to break armor now. But people will rather just be mad and spread misinformation

Post a video where you shoot through a shield of a devestator please

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by KKSM1 - TASTE OF LIBERTEA:

Originally posted by Voodoo:

You actually have much bigger line of sigh and radar, hd2 gives you far more info about enemy movement and range.

Except, they spawn randomly without showing up on radar on higher difficulties. Even the infiltrator armour cannot do the scan properly sometimes. Play it more on higher difficulties and you would know.

So they did in hd1 me dude.

[DebrisHauler]

Originally posted by Larold:

Originally posted by Dain_Ironfoot:

Good. Need to use other stuff. Tired of that stale meta, same thing over and over.

The solution would be to buff the equipment that is unused rather than making everything equally terrible.

Which is exactly what happened. Laser Cannon and Flamethrower got huge buffs that can both help deal with chargers. And Railgun is still viable by overcharging in unsafe mode. It's just not viable enough now for everyone to run separate directions in helldive difficulty which was starting to kill the fun of multiplayer.

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by DebrisHauler:

Originally posted by Larold:

The solution would be to buff the equipment that is unused rather than making everything equally terrible.

Which is exactly what happened. Laser Cannon and Flamethrower got huge buffs that can both help deal with chargers. And Railgun is still viable by overcharging in unsafe mode. It's just not viable enough now for everyone to run separate directions in helldive difficulty which was starting to kill the fun of multiplayer.

Flamethrower, i dunno havent tested it yet, laser cannon cant strip armor off charger nor does it ignore charger armor

cant kill charger=its not good enough.

yes this is sad state of things but this single enemy comes in such stupid numbers and requires to be focused down to the point where if a weapon cant kill it its not even worth consideration.

[Xan84]

Originally posted by DebrisHauler:

Originally posted by Larold:

The solution would be to buff the equipment that is unused rather than making everything equally terrible.

Which is exactly what happened. Laser Cannon and Flamethrower got huge buffs that can both help deal with chargers. And Railgun is still viable by overcharging in unsafe mode. It's just not viable enough now for everyone to run separate directions in helldive difficulty which was starting to kill the fun of multiplayer.

Oh yes, on helldive having 3 charges running at you, 1 titan barfing over you and a bunch of smaller mobs running at you... Oh yes, all the time to charge the railgun to unsfae multiple times for each charger. The gun is dead. Loved using that gun, now I am going to have to switch to something else, going to try the flamethrower when I get home from work.

Also if people had FUN splitting, why the hell would you make the game less FUN?! Is that not the damn point of it? We even had solo players who had FUN playing solo with builds that allowed them to do that. Meh..

[Jack.]

Originally posted by Grimno:

Can it still blow off Charger leg armor in 2 shots so we can kill them?
Was the entire reason I was using the railgun, to deal with the Chargers and how frequently they show up.

No its not useless. You'll have to use unsafe mode to penetrate armor. So use unsafe mode (dont blow yourself up) and you can still destroy the armor.

[Xan84]

Originally posted by Jack.:

Originally posted by Grimno:

Can it still blow off Charger leg armor in 2 shots so we can kill them?
Was the entire reason I was using the railgun, to deal with the Chargers and how frequently they show up.

No its not useless. You'll have to use unsafe mode to penetrate armor. So use unsafe mode (dont blow yourself up) and you can still destroy the armor.

So its completely dead.

[TheBowtiedBandit]

Originally posted by Karl:

Originally posted by Talion The Tark:

no, shots bounce off the front leg armor now and doesnt penetrate

That means it's useless now lol if you're going on bug missions. I'm guessing it can no longer take on laser towers, tanks and hulks as well?

Defeats the point of the railgun, its anti armor single target. its weakness was that it couldn't deal with hordes as well as other weapons.

yeah, i had issues with tanks on the bot planets with it too. even on unsafe mode. it took 5 shots to the heat vent on the back. i think one of them missed, but in all the chaos i couldnt tell exactly
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[Doyle216]

Originally posted by Jack.:

Originally posted by Grimno:

Can it still blow off Charger leg armor in 2 shots so we can kill them?
Was the entire reason I was using the railgun, to deal with the Chargers and how frequently they show up.

No its not useless. You'll have to use unsafe mode to penetrate armor. So use unsafe mode (dont blow yourself up) and you can still destroy the armor.

4 shots in unsafe mode now to blow off leg armor on charger. That is with near max charge.

[Grimno]

Originally posted by Doyle216:

Originally posted by Jack.:

No its not useless. You'll have to use unsafe mode to penetrate armor. So use unsafe mode (dont blow yourself up) and you can still destroy the armor.

4 shots in unsafe mode now to blow off leg armor on charger. That is with near max charge.

Should have been
4 in safe
2 in unsafe
Risk/Reward

[Darlandra]

Originally posted by Grimno:

Originally posted by Talion The Tark:

no, shots bounce off the front leg armor now and doesnt penetrate

Oh cool so the gun is now absolutely useless

get gud?

[Xan84]

Originally posted by Darlandra:

Originally posted by Grimno:

Oh cool so the gun is now absolutely useless

get gud?

Would him getting good make that weapon penetrate armor better?

[LunaticMethod]

Originally posted by Grimno:

Originally posted by Talion The Tark:

no, shots bounce off the front leg armor now and doesnt penetrate

Oh cool so the gun is now absolutely useless

Look at the patch notes. Only safe mode penetration was nerfed, which you generally shouldn't be using if you want to get the most out of the gun anyway.

...Though it's annoying, because I can't figure out what the point of safe mode is anymore.

[Silence Suzuka]

Originally posted by Dani:

Originally posted by Mikail:

What you wanna use to break armor of charger? Just tell me.

probably one of the many large armor breaking launchers. or just put the railgun into unsafe and actually learn how to use the weapon.

Yeah you only have 5 shots while there are 4 or more charger plus 2 or 3 Titans each wave.