Why does the game look so bad even on ultra?

[Helldivers™ 2]

1080p, ultra settings, TAA on/off no difference, native display mode, the game looks worse than most games i have played the last 5 years, and the performance is terrible too.

That makes me think it must be some kind of bug, because there is no reason the game should logically look or perform like that in 2024.

edit: blocking anyone who keeps whining about 1080p as if it is not the most popular res by far, but something weird and alien. Every other game looks way better at 1080p than this, so point invalid

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by Sadist_cain:

Who on earth still uses 1080 for gaming really? that ♥♥♥♥ is far more antique than the engine.

Plus older engines usually have more features, albeit less graphics capability, compared to modern ones.
Physics in modern games for example is practically non existent, hardware acceleration 3d audio is a thing of the past and so on.

The majority of gamers playing on Steam, according to their survey. Including me.

Saying that 1080p is ancient is pure trolling. It is still the standard.

[Internet ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Hero]

Reflections from PS3 era, water looks like something from 1999. Yeah, 4k gonna fix this (lmao).

[gothicpando]

outdated engine?

[Voodoochile]

Maybe you should come in 2024 yourself and upgrade this 1080p smartphone resoltion you are playing on. 1080p on anything above 21inch looks like utter ass. Unless you are playing on a 17'Notebook you are barking under the wrong tree.

Or maybe you haven't seen how terrible current gen games really look like. Buy some AAA games and see for your self. Judging by your comment history you haven't played any new games recently.

Skull and Bones
Forza Motorsport
EA WRC
Kill the Justice League

We can go on and on and this game looks better than all of them.
This game has a lot of issues, but visuals and performance are not among them.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161823098

[Doyle216]

800x600 here. Max settings.
CRT gang rise up!

[-BMF-]

The game defaults to not running at your native resolution so make sure you have the resolution scale set to Native or Supersampling and turn up the graphic settings manually.

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by Lord Bullingdon:

I don't understand the modern gamer attitude of this constant need to have the craziest graphics imaginable: how good do you want it to look? How much more do you want games to push the graphics before it looks "good" to you people? We are now at a level where the graphics in games are totally sufficient and really don't need to be improved on THAT much more. I'd rather games stay looking like this and push the envelope in other ways. Plus who wants to keep buying a new pc / graphics card / processor every few years.

OP is trolling or playing on a toaster and is salty.
Judging by his post history, the most recent game he has played is Dark Souls 3 from 2016

[SnowMew]

Originally posted by Voodoochile:

Maybe you should come in 2024 yourself and upgrade this 1080p smartphone resoltion you are playing on. 1080p on anything above 21inch looks like utter ass. Unless you are playing on a 17'Notebook you are barking under the wrong tree.

Maybe you haven't seen how terrible current gen games really look like. Buy some AAA games and see for your self.

Skull and Bones
Forza Motorsport
EA WRC
Kill the Justice League

I'm admittedly still gaming on 1080p/144hz screen (Though Im running 3x for sim-rig stuff), and they look terrible regardless of resolution.

Try not to bash on 1080p too hard though. End of the day 60% of all steam users use it. While 19% are at 1440p. 3.5% are 4K and 1440p UW is like 0.3%.

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by SnowMew:

Try not to bash on 1080p too hard though. End of the day 60% of all steam users use it. While 19% are at 1440p. 3.5% are 4K and 1440p UW is like 0.3%.

I wouldn't bash if OP wasn't complaining of how visuals look on his end blaming the game.
Yes, 60% of Steam users still use 1080p but that doesn't mean that it looks good in modern gaming, so it's irrelevant. Most new games are designed to be played at higher resolutions. 1080p is shrinking very fast in favor of 1440p.

BTW, maybe OP should tell us which games has he played in the last 5 years since he mentions the comparison

[SnowMew]

Originally posted by Voodoochile:

Originally posted by SnowMew:

Try not to bash on 1080p too hard though. End of the day 60% of all steam users use it. While 19% are at 1440p. 3.5% are 4K and 1440p UW is like 0.3%.

I wouldn't bash if OP wasn't complaining of how visuals look on his end blaming the game.
Yes, 60% of Steam users still use 1080p but that doesn't mean that it looks good in modern gaming, so it's irrelevant. Most new games are designed to be played at higher resolutions. 1080p is shrinking very fast in favor of 1440p.

BTW, maybe OP should tell us which games has he played in the last 5 years since he mentions the comparison

Personal opinion with new games and 1080p, they're fine. Obviously higher pixel density is better (RDR2 looks amazing at 4K on my TV). But the idea new games aren't designed for 1080p is wrong. Most UI/UX design almost always takes into account 1080p, even 720p resolution.

Realistically, 1080p is here to stay a good while longer. Adoption rates for higher resolutions seems to be stinted by the fact that most GPUs you'd want for 4K and high fps (Even 1440p depending on game) are still pretty pricey.

Caveat for 1080p though, any upscaling looks terrible. Most upscalers, DLSS included does not work well below 1440p. If you're playing Helldivers 2 at 1080p and you are not running it native it will look blurry and muddy.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Buddy, I bought a 144hertz monitor last year. Before that I was still running a 60hertz monitor (that I still use as my second monitor).

It is not a question of price, more a question of actually requiring or needing the thing. There is a lot of people who sole reason to exist in life seem to be living on the very bleeding edge of technology, and then they wonder why said tech don't go forward faster and faster like they'd like.

Probably because the rest of the world don't share their interest and are perfectly fine with what we already have. The average person can't even see a difference past 120fps anyways. I certainly have very little interest in a screen which is so big I can't even glance at it all at once. Etc.

You know, practical and use case reasons.

[Aldaris]

Looks perfectly fine to me and runs ok.

[Cooperal]

Model and texture quality aside, the bloomy anti-aliasing quality looks like it came straight out of 2005.

[Sleepy_Walker]

1440p on native resolution and mostly maxed settings here and I am regularly creeping around to get a good angle on a bot factory and get momentarily distracted by how good the foliage looks or how the terrain deforms as my helldiver crawls through mud and gets it all over his gear. My first night on Malevolent Creek was me spending probably 4 minutes looking at the oddly colored trees and marveling at the fire flies. Sometimes the planets are quite impressive and I enjoy the thought that went into the different biomes (Hellmire being a good example of terrible air quality except for a short time twice a day). I even kept the motion blur at 50% when I normally disable that right away in a game.

Most of the time I am not paying attention to how things look, since I am mostly focused on patrols, enemy composition, positioning, the task at hand, ammunition levels, stratagem cooldown, the clock, how satisfying the combat is, etc, etc, but I do think that the game looks plenty good enough.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by Cooperal:

Model and texture quality aside, the bloomy anti-aliasing quality looks like it came straight out of 2005.

I've heard that a few times but... I'm yet to meet anybody who call themselves a gamer who actually use bloom, depth of field, raytracing... You know, any of those extra and completely non required additions to a scene which only hinder your vision and make it so you can't actually see what's going on while playing a game.

Whenever I see someone complaining that bloom or depth of field look bad... I'm sorry but that's the whole point of bloom and depth of field, looking bad.