Why does the game look so bad even on ultra?

[Helldivers™ 2]

1080p, ultra settings, TAA on/off no difference, native display mode, the game looks worse than most games i have played the last 5 years, and the performance is terrible too.

That makes me think it must be some kind of bug, because there is no reason the game should logically look or perform like that in 2024.

edit: blocking anyone who keeps whining about 1080p as if it is not the most popular res by far, but something weird and alien. Every other game looks way better at 1080p than this, so point invalid

[asura]

Uh because the game engine was end of life in 2018.
Does the game look or perform like 2018?

[Aldain]

Originally posted by asura:

Uh because the game engine was end of life in 2018.
Does the game look or perform like 2018?

Don't forget it was also in development for a long time which means the expected hardware "snapshot" so to speak is unlikely to be on par with the year it released.

Still I think for such an old engine this doesn't look too terrible, just wish it was a bit better optimized.

[asura]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Still I think for such an old engine this doesn't look too terrible, just wish it was a bit better optimized.

I mean honestly for all the features it has it's pretty interesting. Like gyro aim and stuff for ps5 - a lot of new shooters don't even have that. I don't know how they got all these features crammed into this bespoke antique thing but it's interesting.

But also it's one of those "scientists developers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should" moments.

[† Sinclaire🩸]

Switch to 2k monitor, thanks me later

[Aldain]

Originally posted by asura:

Originally posted by Aldain:

Still I think for such an old engine this doesn't look too terrible, just wish it was a bit better optimized.

I mean honestly for all the features it has it's pretty interesting. Like gyro aim and stuff for ps5 - a lot of new shooters don't even have that. I don't know how they got all these features crammed into this bespoke antique thing but it's interesting.

But also it's one of those "scientists developers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should" moments.

You know the odd thing? I didn't see Gyro aiming start to catch on until around when Nintendo started introducing it.

I might have missed some older example, but I remember a lot of gyro aiming fans/development coming out right around the time Splatoon 2 launched with it.

My hands shake a bit too much for me to like it (micro tremors, not noticable in everyday live but makes gyro aiming shaky as hell), but I can't deny for those with steady hands it is a nice QoL option.

On the topic of Nintendo, I think they make a good case of getting as much mileage out of older hardware/engines as possible and focusing on optimizing things to a razor's edge because of it, often feels like a lot of devs just rely too much on brute force with hardware these days to me.

[_#R3ck#_]

man its a small studio you should worry about in game gears and other stuff instead of graphics
like valheim no graphics great gameplay
look the forest not the tree!!

[LoosNoot (Ripjack)]

*sigh*
Does it really matter?

[AnthraX]

cause 1080p, gotta play 2k and 4k these days.

[PlecixZ]

Deep rock as name with Level 0 Private profile, talking about graphics hahahahah

[Wr4Th_0f_D0g]

Maybe my expectations are low, but I think the game looks great even on medium

[Rroff]

Only thing which really bothers me is water reflections which seem to be fairly simple screen space reflections and look absolutely hideous sometimes. Everything else is either adequate or good.

[Normarry]

Originally posted by Wr4Th_0f_D0g:

Maybe my expectations are low, but I think the game looks great even on medium

Yeah I think the game looks great

[Simulacrum111]

1080p is the main issue. Many modern games will not look good at that resolution.

[Majorita]

Originally posted by PlecixZ:

Deep rock as name with Level 0 Private profile, talking about graphics hahahahah

This isn't really the right place to argue this but... you are aware there's more to 'graphics' than just raw fidelity right? DRG is a fairly appealing game to look at... and I can tell you now it runs smoother than this game on a much wider variety of computers with less crashing.

Anyway speaking of HD2, I dunno, game looks okay to me. I think it looks best when it is actually leveraging alien landscapes, and not just... when it just looks like Death Stranding or whatever, aka the boring planets.

The main failings are the map generation being so flat and terrible and boring (every single map on every single planet is just some very light rolling hills with some water here or there and maybe a big rock or two).

Compare it to... actually Death Stranding, which is an entirely handmade map and it's kind of stark and beautiful. Unlike Helldivers 2 which is 'procedural generation' and not very interesting.

I sort of can give this game a pass in that regard at least because this is not an adventure game, it is a third person shooter, it's just trying to give you a layout with a few honeycombed points of interest and then you do them and you leave. So it's fine, I guess.

I'll criticise HD2 about a lot of things but the graphics is like hardly the strongest or most important critique you can level at them.

I am hoping that in, gee I dunno, four years or however long it takes them, I don't care, they add some more variable terrain that also isn't a nightmare for the player to traverse, cuz as it is we're slowed down by light shrubbery and bushes, and we have no way to traverse cliffs at all. The game seems balanced for a very horizontal battlefield, too, in that enemies can only chase you in a similar capacity, so. That lack of variety... is troubling.

[Normarry]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

Originally posted by Simulacrum111:

1080p is the main issue. Many modern games will not look good at that resolution.

Allow me to disagree, because everything else looks good, and this is not a modern game anyway, the tech is before 2020..

Thats a buck wild statement considering its better than most triple A titles released in the past 4 years.