Helldivers 2, I have found the elusive reason for crashing on PC and solved it!

[VantagePoint]

Since I started playing Helldivers 2, I have crashes in X random number of minutes after a mission had been started and from just after landing on a planet to getting into the evac ship, basically it was almost unplayable and very frustrating. I have done every suggestion every player has been trying to do online whether to use DirectX11, use the lowest setting, disable Global Illumination and Anti-Aliasing, deleting the shader-cache, reinstalling the game, adding all Helldivers 2 related files and all GameGuard files into the exclusion list of the Virus Scanner so it won't be potentially interrupted during its process. After doing all of that nonsense and yes, they are all BS.

Current Specs:
i9-12900k (Stock Clock Speed without any Overclocking 5.0Ghz all P-Cores and 3.9Ghz on E-Cores)
RTX-3070 TI
128 DDR5 5000Mhz
Gigabyte z690 Elite AX Mobo

The Real Issue:
The real problem that was causing the crash was how the Game is interacting with CPU itself, for some reason which the Development team of the game may try to look into, is it does not seem to like on how newer processor maybe handling the throttling.

The Solution:
What I eventually did was using my EasyTune that is the included software that works for my motherboard to over or downclock my CPU, this makes things a lot better than going to the BIOS and setting it there, so we won't have to keep on restarting and downclocking and restarting again and setting it back to your original setting, other motherboard manufacturers may have the same type of software to do the same thing. So going back to the solution, I basically just downclocked my CPU by 10% from 5.0Ghz to 4.5ghz

The Result
I have Zero and I mean ZERO crashes since then, settings are all on ULTRA, nothing on low and all that makes the game more awesome graphically was ON and at its HIGHEST settings.

Performance after Downclocking.
The bottleneck is not on the CPU, my CPU still has so much juice to process anything and not even reaching. 30% utilization, my FPS is limited by my GPU from 80-160 FPS on everything Ultra.

Once I have stopped playing, I just reload my EasyTune original CPU settings. and if I decide to play Helldivers 2 again, I will just open up EasyTune again and load my 4.5Ghz Profile and start killing those Bugs and Automatons in Ultra details! :)

Notes***
Here is a stream of one of my games set everything to High/Ultra except Motion Blur (Motion Sickness), forgive the resolution as FB and GeForce Experience only has 720p 30FPS Max on their settings but the FPS counter on the upper left of the screen will give a more accurate rate.

https://www.facebook.com/vindicator23/videos/381521114756019/

the graphic settings of the game will be shown at the end so feel free to skip through the entire video.

[Shotgun Susan]

This sounds like a problem specific to your own personal setup, different hardware can have different problems running the same applications.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

i bet you could eat a banana, take a break for a day and come back and find it working. you might attribute eating a banana to it working

[ZeroCool]

It's the power fluctuation from the auto ai boost on 13th and 14th gen cpu's
I did a whole write up but no one seemed to care much.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/1/4298194451993623823/

[`digitaL.braVo]

Ok now explain playstation crashes.

[unanswered ¿]

who's tested this at AMD?

[asura]

Originally posted by VantagePoint:

The Real Issue:
The real problem that was causing the crash was how the Game is interacting with CPU itself, for some reason which the Development team of the game may try to look into, is it does not seem to like on how newer processor maybe handling the throttling.

You are correct.
Try using Process Lasso if you're in Windows or nice/renice/gamemoderun/etc if you're in Linux. You'll stop your crashing if you can prevent any of the threads from hitting 100%.

This was all discussed in another thread like this.

The EasyTune solution is interesting. Someone else mentioned that resetting their OC settings suddenly solved all of their crashes.

Originally posted by `digitaL.braVo:

Ok now explain playstation crashes.

It's the same explanation.

[VantagePoint]

That maybe, but this is something anyone can try, stepping down 10% of your CPU will not hurt your gameplay, and certainly you will not lose anything either for trying. all the recommendations posted is not 100% they only work "sometimes" but this I have played more than 8 hours straight, no crashes, exit the game and played again without restarting, another Zero Crash Session so this tells anyone something, that it maybe because of this, and you are more than welcome to try it if you are having this issue.

[VantagePoint]

Originally posted by asura:

Originally posted by VantagePoint:

The Real Issue:
The real problem that was causing the crash was how the Game is interacting with CPU itself, for some reason which the Development team of the game may try to look into, is it does not seem to like on how newer processor maybe handling the throttling.

You are correct.
Try using Process Lasso if you're in Windows or nice/renice/gamemoderun/etc if you're in Linux. You'll stop your crashing if you can prevent any of the threads from hitting 100%.

This was all discussed in another thread like this.

The EasyTune solution is interesting. Someone else mentioned that resetting their OC settings suddenly solved all of their crashes.

Originally posted by `digitaL.braVo:

Ok now explain playstation crashes.

It's the same explanation.

Yes, the application which every board will probably have something similar will make things a little less complicated and a little easier, but of course if you are into doing everything in the BIOS then BIOS away my friend :)

[VantagePoint]

Originally posted by ZeroCool:

It's the power fluctuation from the auto ai boost on 13th and 14th gen cpu's
I did a whole write up but no one seemed to care much.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/1/4298194451993623823/

They should have if they wanted to enjoy the game more :) I hope both of our articles will help readers who are looking for answers.

[asura]

Originally posted by VantagePoint:

Yes, the application which every board will probably have something similar will make things a little less complicated and a little easier, but of course if you are into doing everything in the BIOS then BIOS away my friend :)

I don't know what this is a reply to. The OC thing? Yeah I didn't change my OC settings... just my process tuning.
Someone else did the OC thing.

[Salted Rogue]

Sounds like the consistent crashing is mainly related to your own setup.

The only time I have experienced crashing, is when someone is using a arc weapon/stratagem otherwise, I have perfectly fine matches.

My specs (No OC except ram): 2560 x 1440p, 5800x3d, 3090, 16gb 3200 mhz ram

In game settings:

Render Scale: Quality
Display: Borderless
Frame Rate: limited to 144
HDR: Off
V-Sync: Off
Camera shake: weak
Sharpness: 1.00
Anti-aliasing: on
Motion blur: off
Bloom: Off
D.O.F: Off
Texture/Render Dist/Object Detail: High
Particle/Reflection Quality: Med
Ambient Oc/SSGI: On
Terrain Qual/Veg density: High
Volumetric Fog/Clouds: Medium
Lighting Qual: High

[asura]

Originally posted by Salted Rogue:

Sounds like the consistent crashing is mainly related to your own setup.

The only time I have experienced crashing, is when someone is using a arc weapon/stratagem otherwise, I have perfectly fine matches.

>must be your setup
>also crash in the exact same scenario
uh???
Go try Process Lasso or whatever tf it is for Windows. Lots of people have good luck with that.

[VantagePoint]

Originally posted by Salted Rogue:

Sounds like the consistent crashing is mainly related to your own setup.

The only time I have experienced crashing, is when someone is using a arc weapon/stratagem otherwise, I have perfectly fine matches.

My specs (No OC except ram): 2560 x 1440p, 5800x3d, 3090, 16gb 3200 mhz ram

In game settings:

Render Scale: Quality
Display: Borderless
Frame Rate: limited to 144
HDR: Off
V-Sync: Off
Camera shake: weak
Sharpness: 1.00
Anti-aliasing: on
Motion blur: off
Bloom: Off
D.O.F: Off
Texture/Render Dist/Object Detail: High
Particle/Reflection Quality: Med
Ambient Oc/SSGI: On
Terrain Qual/Veg density: High
Volumetric Fog/Clouds: Medium
Lighting Qual: High

If you are happy with that then you do not need to do or try this, like I said, I have a really good GPU for this game and you even have a better one LOL, I am not going to set anything on low just to avoid crashes, and I don't like crashes at all, so I hope this will help anyone and looks like quite a few people agree with my findings already and similar approach was done and worked. reducing a bit of your CPU clock that will not even hurt the game FPS and have everything on maximum graphic setting and no crashes, to me it is worth it, and it is not even permanent, just revert the original Clock back through your motherboards Overclocking App when you are done playing.

[GS_GerBeGurGya]

So you had an unstable OC to begin with. What do you suggest for others who do? It could be your power supply unable to deliver enough juice for everything. My CPU doesnt even run up more than 60% usage in the game ever.

[VantagePoint]

Originally posted by GS_GerBeGurGya:

So you had an unstable OC to begin with. What do you suggest for others who do?

My CPU was never overclocked, stock speed is 5.0Ghz on all P-Cores and 3.9Ghz on all E-Cores

BIOS/UEFI Settings are all out of the box on their defaults.