Laser pistol is bad. Just awful.

[Koushik Ayame]

It's not only the worst sidearm, it's the worst gun in the entire game. There is no good reason to bring this gun. Even on a level 1 mission, it cannot keep you safe for long. It's genuinely terrible. You can barely kill a few puny bugs before it overheats. I understand it's a sidearm. It's not meant to be a top tier weapon but it's just almost unusable in any situation. The standard pistol can protect you significantly more than the laser pistol can. I trust the revolver to protect me more than the laser pistol, despite it's super slow reload.

It either needs more damage, slower heat build up, quicker cool down, heck, why not all three because it's just that bad. It's not a weapon you can rely on in the slightest if you're in a pinch.

[Loot]

Originally posted by CritMasterFlex:

I think they may be referring to the charger bug that makes their legs vulnerable after a charge, but most any weapon can do that

They should add a weak spot to their leg joints by default. It only makes sense that the joints of their legs wouldn't be heavily armoured. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to move. Imagine a Knight with a completely solid suit of armor. No gap in the armpit that allows movement, just solid metal. No gap in the elbows that allows movement, solid metal. Backs of the knees, solid mettle. These have always been weak points in armor, and not because the people wearing it wanted to give their opponent a chance to stab them with a dagger while grappling on the ground. Lol

They generally paired Plate with Chainmail to protect the joints, but it wasn't perfect.

[Sokaku]

Scythe is "ok", but I don't really like the hold-on-target aspect on my primary. I absolutely do not want a hold-on-target secondary as secondary is typically meant to serve as a close range clear or quieter take-down option. (which the time to kill on the laser pistol or even Scythe is too long) Laser Cannon works fine, especially for long range sniping since it does a decent amount of damage and sustains fire for 10 seconds.

Oh, and on a side note, cold/hot planets do not affect how long you can fire a weapon before it overheats, despite what the description says. It is the exact same on all planets. The temperature affects how long it takes for the weapon to cool down. So for instance running a sickle on a hot planet is still perfectly viable, though you'll want to treat it more like an AR utilizing the reloads, where on a colder planet you can rely more on the weapon cooling without a reload more often.

[Aethrys]

It's funny you mention, I just unlocked the Jar-5 and was like "Okay cool, that's all the unlockable guns.

Completely forgot the laser pistol exists.

[Dragova]

If Beam weapons actually did their advertised damage, they'd be sorting enemies out left and right. The stats lie. And the only one that got a buff was the support weapon version.

It's either that or the Damage tics per second are extremely slow.

[Ryzilynt]

Laser pistol is for lighting smokes when a rare break presents itself.

It's a prop.

[asura]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Laser pistol is for lighting smokes when a rare break presents itself.

It's a prop.

I don't even think it can do that. It's a glowstick.

[Queltis]

Originally posted by Mosey:

Originally posted by Kurteous:

Wait, which leg? The front or back? Because it's still being deflected on the front side.

Front legs, head on. It most definitely peels off the armor all on it's own and will down them. It does not get reflected off of them as one might expect.

Every time I've shot a charger without hitting its bulbuous back end I get a deflection warning and blue sparks, and the only reason why I bother at all is because I'm trying to play decoy for the people with the real AT weapons.

[Shendun]

Tried testing Dagger on medium once... urg... no.
As op said very slow charge up which i is bad when your main gun is down.
Specialy if is a band of stalkers your dead no matter what.

[Kurteous]

Originally posted by asura:

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Laser pistol is for lighting smokes when a rare break presents itself.

It's a prop.

I don't even think it can do that. It's a glowstick.

It's not even a proper flashlight, either. The guardsmen from 40K have better las-guns than this.

[asura]

Someone was swearing to me "Use it to break eggs! It has unlimited ammo!"
I think it took me like 45 seconds to break an egg. Sickle would've made quick work. I mean I could melee them down faster.

[MagikarpMagi]

Originally posted by asura:

Someone was swearing to me "Use it to break eggs! It has unlimited ammo!"
I think it took me like 45 seconds to break an egg. Sickle would've made quick work. I mean I could melee them down faster.

Kinda unrelated, but you know what's actually kind of great for the eggs? Gas strike. You might have to clean up 3 or 4 eggs to get them all, but it's really effective and can spread over the whole area.

[ChaMil]

Originally posted by asura:

Someone was swearing to me "Use it to break eggs! It has unlimited ammo!"
I think it took me like 45 seconds to break an egg. Sickle would've made quick work. I mean I could melee them down faster.

not really, since it blows up when meleed and propels you backwards and slows you

[Zeddy]

Originally posted by Queltis:

Originally posted by Mosey:

Front legs, head on. It most definitely peels off the armor all on it's own and will down them. It does not get reflected off of them as one might expect.

Every time I've shot a charger without hitting its bulbuous back end I get a deflection warning and blue sparks, and the only reason why I bother at all is because I'm trying to play decoy for the people with the real AT weapons.

The man isn't lying, but he's understandably confused. Due to what is assumed a bug related to animations, all weapons can kill chargers in the leg, including the pistol you start with.

https://youtu.be/okWiUwksefQ

I think this is what's enabling plasma shotgun and flamethrower to do it as well. The most consistent way to do it is baiting a charge and getting him during the turnaround.

[TMAC Blade]

Originally posted by Koushik Ayame:

It's not only the worst sidearm, it's the worst gun in the entire game. There is no good reason to bring this gun. Even on a level 1 mission, it cannot keep you safe for long. It's genuinely terrible. You can barely kill a few puny bugs before it overheats. I understand it's a sidearm. It's not meant to be a top tier weapon but it's just almost unusable in any situation. The standard pistol can protect you significantly more than the laser pistol can. I trust the revolver to protect me more than the laser pistol, despite it's super slow reload.

It either needs more damage, slower heat build up, quicker cool down, heck, why not all three because it's just that bad. It's not a weapon you can rely on in the slightest if you're in a pinch.

My machine pistol I unlocked back in level 15 i think does a better job than the laser pistol. It can kill fodder and even mid teir bugs. If it had more ammo it would be worth using more often. Id say it's about on par with the stalwart in firepower but ammo it's absolutely terrible. Also I'm pretty sure all laser weapons suck in this game. The laser cannon which i decided to try out can't even kill bugs fast enough. The stalwart does a better job of that while the laser cannon feels like it's about as useless as base pistol.

[CastielArch]

Laser pistol is a joke, like the other laser weapons, don't know what they should do to make them usable, probably increasing damage output and armor piercing the longer you shoot a target, eventually piercing even heavy armor.

Originally posted by Mosey:

Also, the sickle is actually too strong and I'm pretty sure it'll get hit by the nerf bat sooner rather than later. It's a primary gun that can take out chargers by shooting their legs. I'm assuming that isn't intentional.

Well you'd expect a gun that necessitates a good 50h of playtime to unlock to be somewhat above the rest, pretty sure most players won't even get to ever use it. I'd understand nerfing an early gun that everybody uses, but for the current last gun of the game it'd be cool if it remains the actual best primary of the game, otherwise what's the point even bothering with medals passed the breaker/slugger ?