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Guard Dog useless?
So, we got Guard Dog and then there is Guard Dog Rover. However after players unlock Rover variant regular Guard Dog is kinda forgoten. Why? Because Rover goes into "cooldown" period after shooting while standard guard dog becomes useless after it uses all ammo. Worst, the only way to get it work again is to call in supply pod since ammo crates found on the map DONT resupply ammo for it. WHY? These random ammo boxes resupply freaking RECOILESS ROCKETS.

EDIT1 - Ok, I wasnt clear in this post. LET US RESUPPLY GUARD DOG USING RANDOM AMMO BOXES ON MAP. That would make standard Guard Dog usable. No need to buff it or replace its weapon. It currently has only 6 mags and then its dead weight.
Last edited by =][=Maxim #37=][=; Mar 24, 2024 @ 12:12pm
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Donald j. Trump Mar 24, 2024 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by acosnil:
Originally posted by Donald J. Trump:
why does every strategem have to be as useful as the next? it's not like if it was as good that you could have both up at the same time.
Because it's a team game, you can only have 4 stratagems per person and every single one you take that isn't useful makes you a burden on your team. And when you pick the Team Killer Special I have to wonder if I'm about to have the next 40 minutes of my life invalidated because you rack up unnecessary team kills on a D9 mission.

Funny that you think loosing is what invalidates the time you spend in the game.
Fauxsteel Mar 24, 2024 @ 2:27pm 
Devs are trolling. Guard Dog needs unlimited ammo (yeah i'm fine with it taking breaks to restock) or needs to full reload when picking ammo ammo from supply or crates on the ground.

Guard Dog is a noobtrap stratagem and the devs know it.
Ryzilynt Mar 24, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Mepho:
Originally posted by Donald J. Trump:
why does every strategem have to be as useful as the next? it's not like if it was as good that you could have both up at the same time.
Because then the "less useful" has no purpose in existing.
They should both be useful with different nuances. That's the idea of balance.

It shouldn't even be that they are so good that you can take either for whatever purpose. The ideal would be having meaning in choosing one over the other while keeping their specific effectiveness.

Many games have weapons or items you use early on and not at all later.

The first weapon you get in Zelda... the wooden sword....

Are you arguing that should be viable in the end game.

Hope this helps.
Doko Mar 24, 2024 @ 2:32pm 
I like how the devs focused on curbing "meta" abuse, but at the same time they completely left strats like Guard dog to the wayside this entire time, while everyone rolls with the Rover.

Going by the data and combat performances alone, the Rover just outperforms the Guard dog in practically every way. Since it's a robot with a gun strapped to it like the Rover is, just give it infinite ammo, but make it more situational for bugs, and make the Rover situational for bots (like how lasers currently work better on bots than they do bugs, same with the ballistic shield).
Fauxsteel Mar 24, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Doko:
I like how the devs focused on curbing "meta" abuse, but at the same time they completely left strats like Guard dog to the wayside this entire time, while everyone rolls with the Rover.

Going by the data and combat performances alone, the Rover just outperforms the Guard dog in practically every way. Since it's a robot with a gun strapped to it like the Rover is, just give it infinite ammo, but make it more situational for bugs, and make the Rover situational for bots (like how lasers currently work better on bots than they do bugs, same with the ballistic shield).
inb4 they nerf rover
Hawk Mar 24, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Doko:
I like how the devs focused on curbing "meta" abuse, but at the same time they completely left strats like Guard dog to the wayside this entire time, while everyone rolls with the Rover.

Going by the data and combat performances alone, the Rover just outperforms the Guard dog in practically every way. Since it's a robot with a gun strapped to it like the Rover is, just give it infinite ammo, but make it more situational for bugs, and make the Rover situational for bots (like how lasers currently work better on bots than they do bugs, same with the ballistic shield).
or they create a brand new meta like with EATs/RR, their balancing makes no sense, 7 years in development by the way and they still don't know what they are doing.
Donald j. Trump Mar 25, 2024 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Ryzilynt:
Originally posted by Mepho:
Because then the "less useful" has no purpose in existing.
They should both be useful with different nuances. That's the idea of balance.

It shouldn't even be that they are so good that you can take either for whatever purpose. The ideal would be having meaning in choosing one over the other while keeping their specific effectiveness.

Many games have weapons or items you use early on and not at all later.

The first weapon you get in Zelda... the wooden sword....

Are you arguing that should be viable in the end game.

Hope this helps.
Bravo!
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Date Posted: Mar 24, 2024 @ 11:47am
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