I barely ever see anyone use smoke.

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I mean I tried for civilian rescue missions but it also doesn't feel like there is much use for it when you are spotted once. Does anybody of the HD-difficulty players tried it and an idea how they work?

[Pain]

Smoke makes enemies lose your position. It's mainly useful as making a screen to reposition.

[Babyfaced Beauty]

Smoke grenade aoe is too small to be useful. Patrols will still walk through it. It's pretty useless after extensive testing in higher difficulties, especially when it is outclassed by impacts and stun grenades by far. It's still fun to use in lower difficulties for certain stealth components, and can be used to force most automaton to walk within meelee range. But as said, in helldive difficulty and end game unlocks of scorcher, there's no need to get up close to them, just stealth snipe everything, or stun and kill from front for hulks.

[ELX-Sevazinho☄]

Are you trying to hide from our enemies helldiver? They must be exterminated. Shoot them! Explode them!

[VIRUSOID]

It will obscure enemy's line of sight so you can lose them and run away
Dont see any other usage

[Babyfaced Beauty]

Originally posted by Pain:

Smoke makes enemies lose your position. It's mainly useful as making a screen to reposition.

Yeh, the idea is there, but i doubt you use it, so talking about it practically, it's useless.

[Key]

Because smoking is bad for you.

Litterally, it sucks, may as well call in a napalm strike.

[Pain]

Originally posted by BabyBeauty:

Originally posted by Pain:

Smoke makes enemies lose your position. It's mainly useful as making a screen to reposition.

Yeh, the idea is there, but i doubt you use it, so talking about it practically, it's useless.

smoke is so situational, its pretty much useless. It's good for ninja vanishing and thats about it.

[AlleyCat]

I feel like it's really awful against bugs but pretty decent against the bots. I actually run the eagle smoke screen pretty regularly against them.

[Eudicots]

I've seen it used only against bots on higher difficulties when people are trying to speedrun through.

[Plorp]

Way more useful for bots. If you are getting lit up from ridiculous range, the Eagle smoke makes a good break for line of sight. They will continue shooting, but they won't hit unless its luck. You can use it to reposition or to approach a heavy factory without being detected.

[Death a Barbar]

Extremely situational, all of them needs to cover a way bigger area and last longer. Good in theory, but if even just 1 enemy is flanking, it's useless. Not to mention most bugs will run through it very fast.

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Originally posted by AlleyCat:

I feel like it's really awful against bugs but pretty decent against the bots. I actually run the eagle smoke screen pretty regularly against them.

I thought vice versa when I posted this. Because no joke I now have used it all from nades to orbital to eagle one I guess it's no use in higher difficulties just as stated already. So yeah will skip on that for like forever until they make it better.

[[BRO]Ingvar]

Had an entire wall of cannon turrets and tanks hammering our position, dropped wall of smoke and we could actually move again to take them out.

It's very situational, but it can get you out of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ death spiral.

[Probitas]

Smoke is a trap, the players think it works, but the AI doesn't game by visuals, it uses algorithms, and those remain unaffected by purely visual effects.

[Tigerhawk71]

Originally posted by Probitas:

Smoke is a trap, the players think it works, but the AI doesn't game by visuals, it uses algorithms, and those remain unaffected by purely visual effects.

pseudo-intellectual garbage.



smoke does work okay against the bots but i wouldn't use it against the bugs... and really it's not THAT useful over blowing the robots up with something else, but it will cause their accuracy to drop. It's very situational.