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Hawk Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:52am
Plas-1 Scorcher
Is it just me or did Arrowhead nerf its medium armor pen properties? I'm, no longer able to pen the leg armor of some of the guard type hull down bugs since the last patch and I was wondering if it was yet another stealth nerf to yet another weapon.
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Zaidah Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:57am 
Dunno about bots since I'm only playing against bugs, but it still seems as powerful : 5 front shots to kill a hive guard.
Hawk Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Zaidah:
Dunno about bots since I'm only playing against bugs, but it still seems as powerful : 5 front shots to kill a hive guard.
I swear now it's bouncing off of their head armor for me and it's been very consistent.
ImHelping Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:16pm 
I think the only stat the devs care about on the scorcher is "Can it still one-shot kill YOURSELF even wearing fortified explosive resist armor"

Still better than the new plasma shotgun. And I would rather use it than the "It is not 100% useless therefore it is overpowered and you only hate it if you are not using it right!" dominator.
Last edited by ImHelping; Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:17pm
NotReallyMyName Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
Never seemed to have medium armor penetration, it just has splash damage that hits the unarmored bits.
ImHelping Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
On further thought taking it out for a solo spin. The damage model on scorcher might just be shovelware tier?

Most of the time, 6 lazy shots to the chest of a gun devestator.

Long range: "I have fired 12 shots with hit effects on it's chest. why is it not dead!? *Reloads, kills*.... okay maybe they did some 'realistic damage falloff' or some nonsense-"

*Kills next long range gun devastator with only 4 shots to the gut, which has no glowing weakspot like a chainsaw bot does*
"What even the ♥♥♥♥?"

*small bot survives scorcher to the chest in middle of killstreak of one shotting small bots. all limbs intact just lightly smoking* "Okay the game is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with me at this point"
Last edited by ImHelping; Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:27pm
ELX-Sevazinho☄ Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
So they nerfed scorcher too, good, now they're making it p2w. Scorcher was the only weapon with the same damage as Dominator, was by far the best weapon againist bots because it was 1 shot 1 kill, 3 shots on walkers and could destroy the shielded heavy in one mag.
ImHelping Mar 21, 2024 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Sevazinho:
So they nerfed scorcher too, good, now they're making it p2w. Scorcher was the only weapon with the same damage as Dominator, was by far the best weapon againist bots because it was 1 shot 1 kill, 3 shots on walkers and could destroy the shielded heavy in one mag.

My world weary jadeness is still filing it under "Devs bad at damage model/some horrible interaction with longer range enemies who are still in gary's mod physics shortcuts mode"

After all, a full nerf still would not be consistently 6 shooting armored gun devastators shooting them literally anywhere close dropship distance fights. If it was a full nerf then it would be "10+ shots why didn't you aim a careful headshot with an aim deviating plasm ball huh?" all the time.

Even with the admitted "malice over incompetence" of WANTING primaries to be bad, it feels too much like incompetence due to all the times scorcher is decent (not great, just decent)

EDIT: and scout walkers are still "3 shots? sometimes? MAYBE?" so probably jank modeling there.

Ugh what a wild feeling to be defending the scorcher, for how often I also say is overrated and not "great" especially not "overpowered" just kinda okay where being allowed to fight enemies with game journalist shields at risk of suicide makes the treadmill loop brain rot players scream.
Last edited by ImHelping; Mar 21, 2024 @ 4:18pm
Jerubius Mar 21, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Sevazinho:
So they nerfed scorcher too, good, now they're making it p2w. Scorcher was the only weapon with the same damage as Dominator, was by far the best weapon againist bots because it was 1 shot 1 kill, 3 shots on walkers and could destroy the shielded heavy in one mag.
Dominator kind of sucks against bots. It's far too slow to aim, and medium armor penetrating doesn't really matter because all their weakspots are unarmored or heavy armor for the most spot.

Honestly, slugger or diligence are probably the best bot weapons. Slugger basically does everything the dominator does, but less aim lag, while the diligence just has a ton more ammo and kills anything short of tanks and walkers super quick. With the stun grenades, it's also pretty easy to 3 tap hulks with the diligence too. Just throw down a stun so they stop moving and shoot its eye. With some practice, it's probably doable without a stun grenade too.
Hawk Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:32pm 
Yep, stealth nerfed, I wonder when Arrowhead are going to have the stones to actually be honest with their customer base and give us the entire changelog like every other dev in history.
Silverlight Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:40pm 
I'm just going to use the Knight because they'll never balance or touch it again because no one uses it
Hawk Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Silverlight:
I'm just going to use the Knight because they'll never balance or touch it again because no one uses it
Until they do, Arrowhead is dead set on making every weapon in the game as weak as possible.

it'll happen to the current AT meta soon, mark my words, EATs and RRs will get nerfed for being meta and too easy.
Last edited by Hawk; Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:42pm
Silverlight Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by Hawk:
Originally posted by Silverlight:
I'm just going to use the Knight because they'll never balance or touch it again because no one uses it
Until they do, Arrowhead is dead set on making every weapon in the game as weak as possible.
Maybe no one knows about burst mode being a sniper
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Date Posted: Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:52am
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