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TaeKwonDodo Mar 20, 2024 @ 1:00pm
500 kg Bomb Needs A Buff!
In my opinion the 500 kg bomb has a way too small explosion radius. Most of the time I only kill around 5 or 7 bugs when I throw it into a horde. Yesterday I checked out how big the crater of the 500 kg bomb is. It's a radius about 15 m. Pretty small. Sure, it doesn't mean this is the pure damage radius of the bomb. It could be bigger. But this makes it even worse.

I think it is completly okay, when they increase the radius by 100%. Then it is about 30 m and it isn't even overpowered. A couple of minutes ago I watched a video of a real 500 pound bomb. So it's ~230 kg. Less than the half of the 500 kg bomb in Helldivers 2. In the video they talked about a deadly radius of already 30-50 meters. And this is only the blast. Additionally there are flying metal parts of the bomb etc.

Of course we don't need a perfect simulation of a bomb. That's not what I want. xD
I think the damage is good. But the damage radius is very small. After all it's, I would say, a half mini nuke. Not a firecracker. It should be more than a fake body builder on steroids if you know what I mean. ^^

What do you think about the 500 kg bomb?
I wish and I really hope the developers give the bomb a good buff.
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Cloud Roller Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:51pm 
Increased damage and/or radius. Sometimes, I find groups of bugs or automatons close to it and still survive, regardless of difficulty. It gets annoying and feels like a waste of a good bomb to use, even when dealing with a nest or base
Foxador Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:53pm 
It's not good with elevation either, if something is slightly above or below where it dropped it tends to miss
Chocbomb Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:56pm 
It is weird to see an enemy walk out of the glowing yellow radiation unscathed.
If you guys are complaining about 500 kg size, then cluster bombs is what you want. Use those instead. They're huge.

If you can't hit a big target, that's a skill issue. Toss it better or use electric fields first.
Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:
If you guys are complaining about 500 kg size, then cluster bombs is what you want. Use those instead. They're huge.

If you can't hit a big target, that's a skill issue. Toss it better or use electric fields first.
To be fair, there's issues with it even directly hitting a titan and being inside it's body and failing to kill it.

The thing has basically no outward hitbox and is basically a vertical beam.
FkYoSht Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:10am 
a 1000 Kg would be very nice. Maybe a lvl 40 unlock or something. The gas strike REALLY needs a buff. Keep the ♥♥♥♥ damage just make the cloud 100% bigger.
Wookie Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:12am 
500kg is a joke. Anything seems to absorb the damage, elevation, terrain, sometimes even small bush or other vegetation. Also the damage is random. Sometimes one i s enough for BT, some times 2 aren't enough even if you land right at BT head. You trow 500kg. you run at BT, it stops and starts to spit bomb lands right next to head and then you hope that this time its gone be decent damage :D. Ye and the small small stuff walking out of the sun after explosion just seems weird.
Grisnir Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:18am 
Since Arrowhead seems to balance via metrics, i would rather guess, that they will nerf it, because everyone and their cat takes it on bug missions.
Ishan451 Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by TaeKwonDodo:
In my opinion the 500 kg bomb has a way too small explosion radius.

While i agree that it is deceptively small, i do not think it is "too small".

Originally posted by TaeKwonDodo:
Most of the time I only kill around 5 or 7 bugs when I throw it into a horde.

It isn't meant to be horde clear. That is what you have Strafing Run and Clusterbombs for.. arguably even Napalm.

Originally posted by TaeKwonDodo:
Yesterday I checked out how big the crater of the 500 kg bomb is. It's a radius about 15 m. Pretty small. Sure, it doesn't mean this is the pure damage radius of the bomb. It could be bigger. But this makes it even worse.

The 500kg bomb is meant to be cracking some really hard targets, like Buildings and heavy armor of the enemy. It is not a "one strategem to fix all your needs"

Originally posted by TaeKwonDodo:
A couple of minutes ago I watched a video of a real 500 pound bomb. So it's ~230 kg.

You can't compare explosives like that. 500kg of black powder has a different explosion than 500kg of C4... let alone 500kg of sand.

Since we don't know the composition of the explosive inside this bomb it is absolutely pointless trying to estimate what it should do.

Originally posted by TaeKwonDodo:
What do you think about the 500 kg bomb?

I think it fills a vital niche in destroying Bile Titans and Tanks, as well as Objective Destruction. That is what its role is and it works very well in that role. Although i wish getting the Stratagems to stick a bit more easily wouldn't hurt.

Increasing its efficiency would only mean it becomes a "must take" Stratagem, and none of them should ever be a "must take" Stratagem. Right now it shares a "slot" with Orbital Railcannon and Orbital Lasers... It is fine at what it does.

If you want a larger blast radius take the Eagle Air Strike. You trade bigger Horde Killing Power for less concentrated fire power.
Last edited by Ishan451; Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:23am
BenBandit Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:
If you guys are complaining about 500 kg size, then cluster bombs is what you want. Use those instead. They're huge.

If you can't hit a big target, that's a skill issue. Toss it better or use electric fields first.
You missed the point. Read the OP again.
The only skill issue here is your text comprehension.
Yikes.
Red Potato Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:26am 
for a nuke it feels so underwhelming. and for those that said if you want bigger use a cluster bomb, that don't do jack all. on top of that you have the weird damage I've seen chargers ignore the bomb completely and even bile titans completely ignore the bomb that dropped literally 2 feet to the left or right of it. on a side note thou you could always have a team mate with a recoiless and one shot it in the face Spears work to but they aren't as effective as a recoiless. 1 railgun orbital and 3-5 shots into the hole it made with a plasma shotgun works also. however it really depends on team mates giving you that shot. i try not to use the 500k but with the new shirker nest the 500k makes short work of it.
SUPERSEXYHOLY Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:28am 
play helldivers 1, and then come share, The warning siren is rad, and totally needed ever moreso in hd2. if theres a "balance" issue or whatever thenin enabling the time to dropin to 10 seconds, or something if they HAve to compensate, but make it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bigger, its a joke how small its radius is, and explosion time, It clears aabout 50mx50m in original , hard to judge but thats my guess as its the whole screen.

a +++ give us hellbomb callin anytime, instead of just at a certain location... as long as mission has ahellbomb objective let us use it for other things too!!! This games still coming up, as in it will get more stronger, and just more, strats, weapons, and enhancments, for a good year straight. these mission 9s arnt really suited for our gear RNOW. the mech helped, but its trash vs autos.. Sickle was NIceto see early. since it owns quite well.. If this 500k is here to stay as is i see there beeing a bigger bomb coming, like a NukeX or something along those lines
Last edited by SUPERSEXYHOLY; Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:33am
pi73r Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:30am 
It's the best eagle stratagem and the most unviersal S-tier stratagem. You people mad.
You got free 25+ kills with it when you drop it on breach.
Last edited by pi73r; Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:31am
SUPERSEXYHOLY Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by pi73r:
It's the best eagle stratagem and the most unviersal S-tier stratagem. You people mad.
You got free 25+ kills with it when you drop it on breach. ooh yipeee whe a grenade will do
Thiccolas Cage Mar 21, 2024 @ 12:39am 
the only use i found for it is bugholes and atomaton outposts idk how good it was beofre the nerf since i just started last weekend
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Date Posted: Mar 20, 2024 @ 1:00pm
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