Laser cannon any good?

[Flat]

Looks cool but I know some of the weapons are unusably bad like the flamethrower

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by kknd:

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

You know what I'd like? I'd like a backpack who's only purpose is to act as a big ass ammunition supply for one of our call in weapons. Think like the tank on an m2 flamethrower, or a powerpack for the laser cannon, or a giant ammo belt for the machine guns. Stuff like these

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/covers/images/007/116/875/large/juan-de-la-rosa-beauty-bullets.jpg?1503807352 for the grenade launcher for example

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d701532108abc4254004561aa8bad93e.webp or this prototype they made for the US Army

So, a weaker version of the current supply pack option? Or is your intended fix for the 'over performers' to have them eat the backpack slot post change?

Flamer, with some more practice from earlier today, mostly needs better range to it so it can actually burn down bugs at beyond little spitter range, which is just FAR too close to be practical.:raven:

I didn't say this was a fix for 'over performers'. I would certainly not call any one of the weapons I just listed an overperformer, especially not that ♥♥♥♥ awful laser cannon. I'ts more of an option to allow someone to sacrifice their back pack slot for more firepower, much like the jetpack and shield generator are options to gain durability or maneuverability.

[Azrael ♡]

The flamethrower is so good wdym?
I've been rocking it on Insane difficulty and I hold the line a lot of the time against mass hordes of bugs + incendiary nades, rocket pods & a mortar turret for when things get crazy.

Imo, it's the user who wields the weapon.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by Azrael:

The flamethrower is so good wdym?
I've been rocking it on Insane difficulty and I hold the line a lot of the time against mass hordes of bugs + incendiary nades, rocket pods & a mortar turret for when things get crazy.

Imo, it's the user who wields the weapon.

The flamer is really good for two things: rapidly clearing eggs and rapidly clearing the little ♥♥♥♥♥. Neither one of these should really be underestimated because the eggs are always in dangerous close quarters areas that aren't safe to deploy explosives and a quick way to get boxed in.

[{Δ} Achilles]

Originally posted by Flat:

Looks cool but I know some of the weapons are unusably bad like the flamethrower

No. Not really. It's better than the flamethrower but still not viable at anything higher than medium difficulty. Even then, you'll regret not taking AT. It isn't good at horde clearing like the MG or nade launcher. It can't kill tanks. All it is, is a tiny bit of ammo-less damage.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

Originally posted by Flat:

Looks cool but I know some of the weapons are unusably bad like the flamethrower

No. Not really. It's better than the flamethrower but still not viable at anything higher than medium difficulty. Even then, you'll regret not taking AT. It isn't good at horde clearing like the MG or nade launcher. It can't kill tanks. All it is, is a tiny bit of ammo-less damage.

Strongly disagree with the lasercannon being better than the flamethrower. Flamethrower doesn't overheat, penetrates whole crowds, sets ground on fire, applies a DoT, does your taxes, celebrates liberty day, and praises freedom.

[{Δ} Achilles]

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

No. Not really. It's better than the flamethrower but still not viable at anything higher than medium difficulty. Even then, you'll regret not taking AT. It isn't good at horde clearing like the MG or nade launcher. It can't kill tanks. All it is, is a tiny bit of ammo-less damage.

Strongly disagree with the lasercannon being better than the flamethrower. Flamethrower doesn't overheat, penetrates whole crowds, sets ground on fire, applies a DoT, does your taxes, celebrates liberty day, and praises freedom.

Stand 2 inches from enemy crowd. Hold button down to burn them. Spend 30 minutes burning them.

When you could just use a grenade launcher and kill the entire crowd instantly. Or an MG. Or literally anything else. Even the autocannon.

There is no point to using the flamethrower, it is bad.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Strongly disagree with the lasercannon being better than the flamethrower. Flamethrower doesn't overheat, penetrates whole crowds, sets ground on fire, applies a DoT, does your taxes, celebrates liberty day, and praises freedom.

Stand 2 inches from enemy crowd. Hold button down to burn them. Spend 30 minutes burning them.

When you could just use a grenade launcher and kill the entire crowd instantly. Or an MG. Or literally anything else. Even the autocannon.

There is no point to using the flamethrower, it is bad.

Ok man if you're just going to be hyperbolic I'm not going to waste my time on you. You're wrong, the flamethrower isn't that bad but yes the grenade launcher is better. MG less so but that's only because fire ignores all armor.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

I will add to my previous comment: The Laser Cannon is definitely underpowered right now, but against Automatons if you have good aim it can actually be decent.

Due to its accuracy, and Automatons often having weak spots you can pop with a laser just by passing over it, it can be pretty useful against them.

But, well, it still overheats much too fast, and won't help against the heaviest ones much. The Flamethrower is better vs bugs due to its short range, and the machine gun is a bit better vs bugs (but can be used vs automatons if you use it properly).

[Chaos]

Trash, like more weapon in the game.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

I will add to my previous comment: The Laser Cannon is definitely underpowered right now, but against Automatons if you have good aim it actually is pretty good. Due to its accuracy, and Automatons often having weak spots you can pop with a laser just by passing over it, it can be pretty useful against them.

But, well, it still overheats much too fast, and won't help against the heaviest ones much.

Can it pop heads on Hulks?

[TotalWarlock]

its fun, but i prefer the bigger guns like the EAT-17 and railgun
dont worry too much about the money the things cost either, because you'll get plenty of it just by playing

[{Δ} Achilles]

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

Stand 2 inches from enemy crowd. Hold button down to burn them. Spend 30 minutes burning them.

When you could just use a grenade launcher and kill the entire crowd instantly. Or an MG. Or literally anything else. Even the autocannon.

There is no point to using the flamethrower, it is bad.

Ok man if you're just going to be hyperbolic I'm not going to waste my time on you. You're wrong, the flamethrower isn't that bad but yes the grenade launcher is better. MG less so but that's only because fire ignores all armor.

https://streamable.com/rgfmih

https://streamable.com/c8lhky

I could have literally just used a railgun/breaker and killed all of it in a couple seconds flat. The flamethrower is garbage. It's a waste of time. If it did more damage, and had more range, I'd consider it.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

I will add to my previous comment: The Laser Cannon is definitely underpowered right now, but against Automatons if you have good aim it actually is pretty good. Due to its accuracy, and Automatons often having weak spots you can pop with a laser just by passing over it, it can be pretty useful against them.

But, well, it still overheats much too fast, and won't help against the heaviest ones much.

Can it pop heads on Hulks?

I don't know if it can on Hulks - but it can on pretty much any other Automaton with ease.

Hulks are more heavily armored and unfortunately the Laser Cannon only has "light armor piercing." If it was medium armor piercing it might be better in situations like that.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Ok man if you're just going to be hyperbolic I'm not going to waste my time on you. You're wrong, the flamethrower isn't that bad but yes the grenade launcher is better. MG less so but that's only because fire ignores all armor.

https://streamable.com/rgfmih

https://streamable.com/c8lhky

I could have literally just used a railgun/breaker and killed all of it in a couple seconds flat.

Yes, because those two are ridiculously good. You're comparing the equivalent of a weapon that is good, versus a weapon that is S+.

[{Δ} Achilles]

Originally posted by Salty Slothy:

Originally posted by {Δ} Achilles:

https://streamable.com/rgfmih

https://streamable.com/c8lhky

I could have literally just used a railgun/breaker and killed all of it in a couple seconds flat.

Yes, because those two are ridiculously good. You're comparing the equivalent of a weapon that is good, versus a weapon that is S+.

So then the flamethrower is bad. Case closed. All weapons should be equivalent in effectiveness, in their own niche, to the Breaker/Railgun. Period.

I WANT to use other weapons, but I also don't like using 3 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mags on basic enemies.