Bugs aren't fun to fight.

[It Protecc]

Been playing and loving this game for a good minute, but my GOD are the bugs just... Awful on higher difficulties. I know they're supposed to be the horde enemies, I know they're supposed to rush you with a wave of bodies. But those bodies shouldn't consist of 4 chargers, 8-10 spewers, and a stalker for good measure with a few hundred smaller bugs just to soak up ammo. We just don't have the means to deal with it, even with a full team. Can't sit still and make a position to fight from, running around doesn't help, and strats just don't deal with them effectively enough (Seriously, 500kg bombs are great but 2 minutes is a lot of time for any losses to be replaced.) The worst part is, fighting the bots on the same difficulty is a BLAST, enemies are more varied and fair, you can actually stop their spawn mechanic by shooting down the dropship which is cool, and their positions are just way more fun to fight against. We need an equaliser against the massive bugs, and we just don't right now. Tanks and mechs when?

I can't be the only person feeling this, right?

[Kashra Fall]

Disagree entirely. Bugs feel awesome and make me have those old familiar SST quotes from the movie play in my head from time to time. "Negative, this place crawls sir!" was in my head last mission as we evaced from the hellish landscape of bugs crawling over one another's corpses to get to us.

[BrowneHawk]

It seems like the game needs some better suppression weapons. Something that can do a wide sweeping arc hitting multiple enemies to slow them down.

I have also noticed part of the issue is players not working together. Just a bunch of people running around doing their own thing and not giving covering fire and proper "peels" for teammates.

[Fractured]

I have literally 1 issue with the bugs (Besides all the glitches), and that is the breaches. I don't like dealing with them, they are unfun. They need to create 1+ (Depending on difficulty) holes that can be closed. That way if we strategem properly, or push them back we can close it. Instead of just sitting there, waiting forever for it to be closed.

This is especially bad on the higher end difficulties, where the breaches take eons to go away.

[Surge]

Chargers are so easy to deal with, just throw either a eat at their feet or 2 shots of a railgun and start blasting with a normal gun. You can also reliably take down the big bile spewers with the railgun with 5 ish headshots

[Grimno]

Originally posted by Fractured:

I have literally 1 issue with the bugs (Besides all the glitches), and that is the breaches. I don't like dealing with them, they are unfun. They need to create 1+ (Depending on difficulty) holes that can be closed. That way if we strategem properly, or push them back we can close it. Instead of just sitting there, waiting forever for it to be closed.

This is especially bad on the higher end difficulties, where the breaches take eons to go away.

This.
Bug Breaches should be closable if I drop a 500kg bomb on that orange smoke

[dotVeskan]

Bugs arent the swarm enemy though. If youre being swarmed something has gone horribly wrong. You have to stealth around the bugs OR ELSE they swarm. You arent going to have power/survival parity to these bugs if they are allowed to swarm so stop letting them swarm. Thats their threat, thats their power, thats their identity. So forcibly steal it from them.

Sneak and use your radar. Coordinate firing lines to wipe patrols quickly and efficiently, Drop turrets to distract patrols. GET CRAFTY! It's just 4 of you versus potentially an ENTIRE PLANET TURNED INTO A HIVE. You don't as 4 entities take down an entire planetary sized threat. The difficulties are aptly named. Suicide mission: Dont expect to come back alive. and HELLDIVE, you're actually dropping into hell itself.

[Blutshooter]

orbital lasers. rail gun and automatic gun. EZ SQUEZY

[CHAOSDIVER]

My biggest problem is killing a bug when it tries to summon a breach and it dies then the breach still goes off a couple seconds later. Like TF? Almost impossible to stop them.

[Y'all Hear Sumn?]

They become much more manageable when you gain EMS, Napalm and learn to easily deal with hunters and armored guys. EMS Strikes or EMS Mortars = free kills on breaches.

[Elvi]

I see. So you are basically saying you are a communist.

[DocRusty]

Originally posted by It Protecc:

Been playing and loving this game for a good minute, but my GOD are the bugs just... Awful on higher difficulties. I know they're supposed to be the horde enemies, I know they're supposed to rush you with a wave of bodies. But those bodies shouldn't consist of 4 chargers, 8-10 spewers, and a stalker for good measure with a few hundred smaller bugs just to soak up ammo. We just don't have the means to deal with it, even with a full team. Can't sit still and make a position to fight from, running around doesn't help, and strats just don't deal with them effectively enough (Seriously, 500kg bombs are great but 2 minutes is a lot of time for any losses to be replaced.) The worst part is, fighting the bots on the same difficulty is a BLAST, enemies are more varied and fair, you can actually stop their spawn mechanic by shooting down the dropship which is cool, and their positions are just way more fun to fight against. We need an equaliser against the massive bugs, and we just don't right now. Tanks and mechs when?

I can't be the only person feeling this, right?

Don't like the bugs? Well then get over to the Bots.

The problems you have pointed out are sadly skill issue related. Eveyone is angry at chargers, but they arent that difficult with a little coordination. If you dont have people to coordinate with, then you just need to play a lower difficulty and find those friends who will help you go further.

Don't attempt to fight every patrol that you see and you will have a much better time fighting the bugs.

[[CULT] Siren]

Originally posted by It Protecc:

Been playing and loving this game for a good minute, but my GOD are the bugs just... Awful on higher difficulties. I know they're supposed to be the horde enemies, I know they're supposed to rush you with a wave of bodies. But those bodies shouldn't consist of 4 chargers, 8-10 spewers, and a stalker for good measure with a few hundred smaller bugs just to soak up ammo. We just don't have the means to deal with it, even with a full team. Can't sit still and make a position to fight from, running around doesn't help, and strats just don't deal with them effectively enough (Seriously, 500kg bombs are great but 2 minutes is a lot of time for any losses to be replaced.) The worst part is, fighting the bots on the same difficulty is a BLAST, enemies are more varied and fair, you can actually stop their spawn mechanic by shooting down the dropship which is cool, and their positions are just way more fun to fight against. We need an equaliser against the massive bugs, and we just don't right now. Tanks and mechs when?

I can't be the only person feeling this, right?

this is clearly two bugs in a trench coat

[Professor Elm]

Breaches need a rework, you can shoot down the ship the bot reinforcements come in on.

[greenember]

The issue is at 5 and up difficulty you get 1 summon turn to 20 quick as your kited by 100 hinters 13 bile spewers 5 chargers 4 titans and host of others your team is wiped by 3 stalkers and you dont have a moment to even look behind you as if you do your 1 shot spit on ran over over run all the buggs seem to cc now and slow is on the menu you cant out run anyof them now cant kill em fast enough somethings chanaged they also morph through rocks and you rag doll off every stone and are swarmed by 15 hunters right before 2 chargers stampeed u

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by Grimno:

Originally posted by Fractured:

I have literally 1 issue with the bugs (Besides all the glitches), and that is the breaches. I don't like dealing with them, they are unfun. They need to create 1+ (Depending on difficulty) holes that can be closed. That way if we strategem properly, or push them back we can close it. Instead of just sitting there, waiting forever for it to be closed.

This is especially bad on the higher end difficulties, where the breaches take eons to go away.

This.
Bug Breaches should be closable if I drop a 500kg bomb on that orange smoke

Just stand over it with flame thrower and the only thin that will come out of it alife is bile titan.