Recoilless Rifle Ammo Backpack Reloading

[Woldelele]

Right now to perform a buddy-system quick reload, you need to have another Helldiver equip the ammo backpack. In my opinion it should be the other way around.

Devs, change it so that anyone can help you quick reload by simply having the backpack on the shooter (yourself). Makes more sense mechanically.

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Willem:

That would make it to easy as anyone can reload you then, it requires more coordination for shooter and loader to stick together.
Also shooter can take supply backpack.
The intention is chaotic situations there are so many situational moments where there is no chaos when just any team mate can load you vs only one member.

The issue is also that assisted reload is bugged as hell.
Me and my buddy tried to run this way and every time i reloaded his autogun and hemoved just a little bit in any direction, the arms of my character bugged out and couldn't aim properly after detaching myself from him. Once my gun bugged out too and couldn't use up the entire magazine of my primary gun and hat to kill myself.
I looked like i'm performing some sort of annoying Fortnite dance
https://imgur.com/zCRsXOm

[Willem]

Originally posted by Nihil:

Originally posted by Willem:

That would make it to easy as anyone can reload you then, it requires more coordination for shooter and loader to stick together.
Also shooter can take supply backpack.
The intention is chaotic situations there are so many situational moments where there is no chaos when just any team mate can load you vs only one member.

The issue is also that assisted reload is bugged as hell.
Me and my buddy tried to run this way and every time i reloaded his autogun and hemoved just a little bit in any direction, the arms of my character bugged out and couldn't aim properly after detaching myself from him. Once my gun bugged out too and couldn't use up the entire magazine of my primary gun and hat to kill myself.

Never had this issue i'm playing on PS5 though so might be a PC issue

[Willem]

Also to add imho they should make you walk slow AF when you equip both the weapon and ammo pack to make it even more viable to 2-man the units

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Willem:

Originally posted by Nihil:

The issue is also that assisted reload is bugged as hell.
Me and my buddy tried to run this way and every time i reloaded his autogun and hemoved just a little bit in any direction, the arms of my character bugged out and couldn't aim properly after detaching myself from him. Once my gun bugged out too and couldn't use up the entire magazine of my primary gun and hat to kill myself.

Never had this issue i'm playing on PS5 though so might be a PC issue

Yeah could be. Usually PC ports have a lot more bugs understandably.

[Mike]

If x2 of you both take the recoiless rifle, you can reload each other from your respective backpacks, same with autocannon. Seems not a lot of people worked this out yet to use your ammo on the other person's weapon and vice versa.

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Willem:

Also to add imho they should make you walk slow AF when you equip both the weapon and ammo pack to make it even more viable to 2-man the units

As strange it sounds, i kinda agree.
During assisted reload you are tethered together. And when the operator moves during this phase, he is dragging you with himself like some ragdoll. Feels very bad and annoying.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Willem:

Puny little guard which does almost nothing for the team vs taking down titan in 3 seconds
Hmm i wonder which one benefits the team more....

Puny little guard that can clear out almost all the little bugs, give you a much needed space to handle the bigger threat, while also doesn't tied you down to your teammate and doesn't need any communication to be effective.
Hmmm I wonder which one would be useful to the random team more...

[Mochi_flamer]

If defend mission yes like kill many bug, cybord or hunting titan yes , you can do 1 person shoot and 1 person reload and also carry extra recoiless rifle ammo. If like normal mission you need mobile espacially suicide, imposible or helldive difficulty . I agree just increase reload if no buddy system.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by Willem:

Puny little guard which does almost nothing for the team vs taking down titan in 3 seconds
Hmm i wonder which one benefits the team more....

Puny little guard that can clear out almost all the little bugs, give you a much needed space to handle the bigger threat, while also doesn't tied you down to your teammate and doesn't need any communication to be effective.
Hmmm I wonder which one would be useful to the random team more...

Nah thanks I take loading someone SPEAR over the guard any-day.
My shotgun is fine and faster taking out trash.
And it looks like you see being tethered as a disadvantage which it is absolutely not the DPS increase well outweighs one man not shooting for a few seconds.

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Willem:

Also to add imho they should make you walk slow AF when you equip both the weapon and ammo pack to make it even more viable to 2-man the units

As strange it sounds, i kinda agree.
During assisted reload you are tethered together. And when the operator moves during this phase, he is dragging you with himself like some ragdoll. Feels very bad and annoying.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Willem:

Nah thanks I take loading someone SPEAR over the guard any-day.
My shotgun is fine and faster taking out trash.
And it looks like you see being tethered as a disadvantage which it is absolutely not the DPS increase well outweighs one man not shooting for a few seconds.

Ok look, I know that crew Op gonna give you much better brust dps to clear the big boy, much better than the laser bot gonna give you ever.

But my point is very simply, it's a far more comfortable set up for pub team, as expecting someone you never know to actually come help you reload when you need it is simply unrealistic.

Hell I tried it myself, the gunner and me are trying to use RL on some chargers, but we can't stick together at all due to the other 2 guys can't cover us for some reason.

So my Railgun-Laser bot combo become my main loadout due to the sheer flexibility this build allow in case my teammate doesn't do their part.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by Willem:

Nah thanks I take loading someone SPEAR over the guard any-day.
My shotgun is fine and faster taking out trash.
And it looks like you see being tethered as a disadvantage which it is absolutely not the DPS increase well outweighs one man not shooting for a few seconds.

Ok look, I know that crew Op gonna give you much better brust dps to clear the big boy, much better than the laser bot gonna give you ever.

But my point is very simply, it's a far more comfortable set up for pub team, as expecting someone you never know to actually come help you reload when you need it is simply unrealistic.

Hell I tried it myself, the gunner and me are trying to use RL on some chargers, but we can't stick together at all due to the other 2 guys can't cover us for some reason.

So my Railgun-Laser bot combo become my main loadout due to the sheer flexibility this build allow in case my teammate doesn't do their part.

Yea i get your point but can only speak for myself I for one will reload any random's weapon any time.
But yea many don't get it yet and many are still learning mechanics and what not.

[Zeyr0tyx]

doesnt matter as 9/10 times mates cant help you reload, they load the shell and stop midway or one time i tried to team reload another dude with a recoilless and its ammo backpack while having the same setup and we both got stuck together so hard that a mate had to mercy kill one of us.... fun, a team weapon that's only usable alone so u gotta deal with the longest reload animation in the game if u wanna use it

[Willem]

Originally posted by Zeyr0tyx:

doesnt matter as 9/10 times mates cant help you reload, they load the shell and stop midway or one time i tried to team reload another dude with a recoilless and its ammo backpack while having the same setup and we both got stuck together so hard that a mate had to mercy kill one of us.... fun, a team weapon that's only usable alone so u gotta deal with the longest reload animation in the game if u wanna use it

Yes i see Nihil had same issue this must be a PC bug because i play on PS5 and 2-man weapons all the time and never seen this issue

[TrollanKojima]

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

You can reaload these solo. But much slower.
Such weapons have crew of two or three people usually.

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