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Nexus Feb 10, 2024 @ 7:54pm
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Is there any way to get or plans to reintroduce the pre order armors for post launch players?
Haven't gotten the game yet. Never heard of it till after it launched.

I saw there was a pre order bonus which I usually take as a red flag in general. Even if small, I never cared for the idea of locking players out of content just cause they weren't in the loop at the right time.

That being said, have there been any notions that the pre order content will return one day for all players?
Originally posted by Ratch:
Pre-ordering should have died out with physical media, as that was THE ONLY reason to ever pre-order a game. You reserve a copy for release day so you don't have to travel hours to find a store with a copy.

Now that physical media is effectively dead there is no reason to continue pre-ordering except to encourage scummy fomo business practices. Purely cosmetic or not.
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Nexus Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by Microcosm the Catboy:
Originally posted by Nexus:
If I have kids, and they can't access all the content in a game simply cause they weren't born at the right time, there's a problem.

Its why battle passes and other fomo tactics are frowned upon. There's no real reason to lock something behind a time gate aside from being selfish and not wanting other people to have access to your shiny thing.
Yeah, it's selfishness. The pre-order bonus is a sign of trust between a user and the devs. It's supposed to be a reward for those that have enough faith in the developer to actually invest before receiving a product. You're too empty in the skull to understand that apparently.
It's not a sign of trust. It's a carrot dangling at the end of a stick.

It's a FOMO tactic used to insentivice buying the game before you know anything about it really aside from what (possibly edited cough cough rainbow 6) trailers show you

It's a mystery box. Will the game be good? Will it be bug free? Will the servers even work? Will they just sweep the rug out from under your feet and ask you to pay 69$ for a battle pass each season just to close the live service once it doesn't make back its intended profit? Who knows! But they got their entry fee so who cares? You clearly don't since you're far to brainwashed into thinking this kinda stuff is okay.
Wiid Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:29pm 
The Pre-order content consists of one Cosmetic uniform, helmet and cape. One Sub-machine gun with armor pen values, a meaningless title and a Arcade game for your ship. I have no doubt that at some point the SMG will be available in a warbound in the future. The armor probably has the "Democracy Protects" passive which you can get on other armors if you want.
Last edited by Wiid; Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:32pm
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by Nexus:
Originally posted by Microcosm the Catboy:
Yeah, it's selfishness. The pre-order bonus is a sign of trust between a user and the devs. It's supposed to be a reward for those that have enough faith in the developer to actually invest before receiving a product. You're too empty in the skull to understand that apparently.
It's not a sign of trust. It's a carrot dangling at the end of a stick.

It's a FOMO tactic used to insentivice buying the game before you know anything about it really aside from what (possibly edited cough cough rainbow 6) trailers show you

It's a mystery box. Will the game be good? Will it be bug free? Will the servers even work? Will they just sweep the rug out from under your feet and ask you to pay 69$ for a battle pass each season just to close the live service once it doesn't make back its intended profit? Who knows! But they got their entry fee so who cares? You clearly don't since you're far to brainwashed into thinking this kinda stuff is okay.
I'm not brainwashed lmao. I only approve of pre-order bonuses if they're purely cosmetic and don't give competitive advantages over others, which this doesn't. You're just being a piss baby about it because you have your own beliefs with the evidence being as reliable as the bible. If you're gonna call me brainwashed ask me why this is the only pre-order bonus I've actually liked in years. I don't know what kind of monkey you have clanging around in your head but it needs to be euthanized.
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:32pm 
Originally posted by Wiid:
The Pre-order content consists of one Cosmetic uniform helmet and cape. One Sub-machine gun with armor pen values, and a meaningless title and an Arcade game for your ship. I have no doubt that at some point the SMG will be available in a warbound in the future.
Thats the super citizen DLC/bonus thing. Preorder just had 3 unique outfits. Don't understand why hes being such a piss baby about wanting it "for his kids" asthough he'll buy this game for his "child" that hasn't even been born yet.
Wiid Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:41pm 
Oh I didnt even know those were pre-order, but they give you no advantage. The have same passives other armors have.

The Citizen bullcrap is the only thing that can be said to be pay-to-win because it locks a decent weapon behind a pay wall and I hope they will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at enough to fix that in a future warbound an then all is well.
Last edited by Wiid; Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:43pm
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 8:43pm 
Originally posted by Wiid:
Oh I didnt even know those were pre-order, but they give you no advantage. The have same passives other armors have.
Thats why I'm so confused on why out of all the issues with the game, hes choosing to die on this hill. Most pointless battle in the war for democracy.
Nexus Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Microcosm the Catboy:
Originally posted by Nexus:
It's not a sign of trust. It's a carrot dangling at the end of a stick.

It's a FOMO tactic used to insentivice buying the game before you know anything about it really aside from what (possibly edited cough cough rainbow 6) trailers show you

It's a mystery box. Will the game be good? Will it be bug free? Will the servers even work? Will they just sweep the rug out from under your feet and ask you to pay 69$ for a battle pass each season just to close the live service once it doesn't make back its intended profit? Who knows! But they got their entry fee so who cares? You clearly don't since you're far to brainwashed into thinking this kinda stuff is okay.
I'm not brainwashed lmao. I only approve of pre-order bonuses if they're purely cosmetic and don't give competitive advantages over others, which this doesn't. You're just being a piss baby about it because you have your own beliefs with the evidence being as reliable as the bible. If you're gonna call me brainwashed ask me why this is the only pre-order bonus I've actually liked in years. I don't know what kind of monkey you have clanging around in your head but it needs to be euthanized.

its funny really. i find everyone who defends these sorts of things have no real evidence to show to why they dont want people to have what they have aside from not wanting other people to enjoy all a game has to offer and instead choose to hurl insults like a child instead.

please, tell me, specifically, why its somehow wrong for letting everyone have access to everything a game has to offer provided they are willing to give the extra money for it via dlc or something?

it doesnt effect you personally aside from maybe your ego that you arent the special little somebody anymore, if anything it would generate more revenue for the company to sell it as a supporter dlc, everyone gets to enjoy it and nobody really loses aside from the aforementioned ideal of self importance.

it doesnt matter if it effects the game or not, its something thats there, in the games code, thats just not available to people simply cause they werent there at the right time. its not like it would take away development time to just make it accessible to all.
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by Nexus:
its funny really. i find everyone who defends these sorts of things have no real evidence to show to why they dont want people to have what they have aside from not wanting other people to enjoy all a game has to offer and instead choose to hurl insults like a child instead.

please, tell me, specifically, why its somehow wrong for letting everyone have access to everything a game has to offer provided they are willing to give the extra money for it via dlc or something?

it doesnt effect you personally aside from maybe your ego that you arent the special little somebody anymore, if anything it would generate more revenue for the company to sell it as a supporter dlc, everyone gets to enjoy it and nobody really loses aside from the aforementioned ideal of self importance.

it doesnt matter if it effects the game or not, its something thats there, in the games code, thats just not available to people simply cause they werent there at the right time. its not like it would take away development time to just make it accessible to all.
I already provided evidence. Its opinions. That is literally everything this is about. You WANT a pre-order exclusive. I told you why they exist and why you shouldn't get it. All of this is about opinions. If you don't see evidence, your eyes are blocking it because you refuse to acknowledge when someone else is right.

As I said, letting people get specifically the PRE ORDER bonus is wrong, unless it gives a competitive advantage. It is a way of showing SUPPORT between user and developer, especially since the exclusive was just 3 skins. You can't use your entire "mimimi FOMO mimimi BATTLEPASS" excuse when there is no real competitive gain to entice us to preorder.

It does effect me though. As well as thousands of other pre-order users, if they simply bring back the bonus for others to get. If they bring it back, what would be the point in pre-ordering. Yes, it would generate more money for the devs, but the pre-order bonus ISN'T FOR THE MONEY. If they wanted the money, they'd throw in some ability or weapon that would give us an advantage over those who didn't. For someone claiming FOMO tactics, you should understand this without me needed to explain, its elementary level understanding of incentivizing user payments. The entire reason preorder bonuses exist that DON'T give an advantage is purely for loyal supporters to be rewarded without putting other users at a disadvantage simply for not giving their money. Games do give pre-order bonuses that are wrong though, but this wasn't the case so none of your flawed logic can be applied to it.

For your final point "it doesnt matter if it effects the game or not, its something thats there, in the games code, thats just not available to people simply cause they werent there at the right time. its not like it would take away development time to just make it accessible to all."

Yes. It is something that doesn't effect the game. It is for people who were there are the right time. You just summarized it. How are you failing to understand what a pre-order bonus is and how they work.



It seems like if anything you're being afflicted by these "FOMO" tactics which is hilarious. I'm done with you but lets summarize your lunacy to this point.

"We should bring back the pre-order bonus because if I might want to eventually get my child (who doesn't even exist yet) the game and they should be able to have access to it since they weren't around to have a chance to get it".

With this kind of material you could run a clown school all by yourself! congrats, hope the new minimum wage job helps you out. Who knows, maybe you'll be able to get the next pre-order bonus!
M33MN33 Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Nexus:
Haven't gotten the game yet. Never heard of it till after it launched.

I saw there was a pre order bonus which I usually take as a red flag in general. Even if small, I never cared for the idea of locking players out of content just cause they weren't in the loop at the right time.

That being said, have there been any notions that the pre order content will return one day for all players?

I get where you are coming from but at the end of the day it is 3 cosmetic skins that offer little to no useful traits other than looking kinda cool. But they are in fact pre order "exclusive", so i don't believe they will be offered in the future. The SMG people are talking about is not a part of the preorder bonus as it is a part of the upgrade bundle, and honestly its pretty meh, id go as far as to say its outclassed by the starting rifle.

It sucks that you missed out on the media of this game prelaunch, and i understand the frustrations of being locked out of content, but at the end of the day the pre order skins are a gift to those of us who already intended on buying the game on day 1 and trusted the developers enough from our previous experiences with them (I.E.: Helldivers 1) to throw the cash their way a little early.

Arrowhead is an amazing developer studio and consistently listens to the player-base and supports their games no matter how dead they seem to be, im sure there will be some badass armors to come out that looks way better than a ugly knight skin, a bright blue vending machine sponsored skin, and the ok-ish looking noble skin, hell i don't even use them as there are better looking skins imo in the battlepass already.

With all that being said i think you should get the game, after a few dives you'll realize that it doesn't matter what you or someone else is wearing because it will be covered in blood anyways (be it yours, a friends, or some bug guts.). The most important thing is having fun, and i can guarantee you that you will in fact enjoy your experience regardless if the pre order content is made available or not.

Sorry for the long reply.
Sofia Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:54pm 
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Originally posted by Microcosm the Catboy:
If it does I'm gonna buy alt accounts just to review bomb the game. Pre-order exclusive means pre-order exclusive. What is the point in it if they're just gonna make it "pre-order or buy 6 months later".
nah people who only discovered this game now deserve a way to obtain those armors too

FOMO is a gaming plague and you should be ashamed for supporting it

just do what every other game does and add the pre-order items as a 5$ DLC or something
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by M33MN33:
all that being said i think you should get the game
I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE HE DOESNT EVEN OWN THE GAME. THAT MAKES HIM LOOK SO MUCH WORSE AHAHAH. Jesus christ I hate him even more now.
♥ Beepy ♥ Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
So, let me get this crystal clear.

-You're angry because there are pre-order items that you potentially won't get, because you didn't know about the sequel. (not sure who's fault that is as it was announced Sept 2021)

-Then in the same breath are saying that nobody should be able to get a little reward for having some early faith in the title and pre-ordering it... Because you didn't / weren't able to despite having literal months to do such?
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Are you new to PC gaming? Pre-order bonuses have been a thing for literal decades. If you want them that badly, then, guess what, you pre-order the title or do without.

Life's not fair. If you want the pre-order bonus, then you pre-order it next time.
Chaos Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:03pm 
Probably not yet (especially now that they still have to do damage control from their ♥♥♥♥ launch), tho most game do sell them as a dlc later along side the "game of the year" (lol) edition.

But seriously...why does it matter?
I don't even want to use it even tho I have it, the default sleek black/yellow combo is hard to beat.
Microcosm Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:09pm 
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Originally posted by Sofia:
nah people who only discovered this game now deserve a way to obtain those armors too

FOMO is a gaming plague and you should be ashamed for supporting it

just do what every other game does and add the pre-order items as a 5$ DLC or something
People who just discovered it don't "deserve a way" to obtain them too. It was a way to REWARD LOYAL users for TRUSTING the devs.

Yes. FOMO is a gaming plague. One that can't be used here. If a pre-order bonus gives an advantage, say through a booster, weapon, or ability, that is messed up and should 100% not even exist at all. But for a purely cosmetic exclusive bonus that provides a whopping total of 3 mediocre suits that have no "unique" abilities is sad. I can't believe people are getting triggered over this.

You're so used to companies using FOMO and then selling the bonus later for a price that you're now reversing that logic and saying this purely cosmetic bonus should be sold. That is literally your argument. "FOMO IS BAD BUT OTHER GAMES ATLEAST RESELL IT FOR A QUICK BUCK AT THE EXPENSE OF CUSTOMER TRUST SO THESE GUYS SHOULD TOO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO FOMO". The only "FOMO" is coming from people who didn't know the game existed until it released.

Tell you what. I've played games that reward people who buy into the alpha with exclusive things like "alpha tester" titles and whatnot. Why don't we yell at those devs until they put the alpha tester titles up for sale for a few bucks? See. Thats your logic.

How in the hell is the brainrot from Starship Troopers: Extermination seeping into this community too.
Artarian Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Microcosm the Catboy:
If it does I'm gonna buy alt accounts just to review bomb the game. Pre-order exclusive means pre-order exclusive. What is the point in it if they're just gonna make it "pre-order or buy 6 months later".
I see absolutely no problem in having the preorder items available as part of the delux edition or whatever, and I preordered it. If that makes you mad enough to buy multiple copies of the game, well the only loser here would be you, while everyone else benefits lol.
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