Helldivers 2 is the 5th most sold game as of now

[Tunnfisk]

Looks like we'll be doing just fine without all those who dislike anti-cheat and 3rd person view.

[phlux]

EdibleChihuahua lähetti viestin:

Oh yeah they can talk ♥♥♥♥, but you can avoid the headache and let them congregate amongst themselves while they pat each other on the back while they do nothing but complain.

I could do that sure but i like the discourse with people who have different opinions than me.
As wrong as it might seem to me it has the potential for everybody to learn some things so why let the opportunity go away?
Just don't take it too seriously and most important don't start to identify yourself with your own position and you can have alot of fun in these discussions ;)

[PhantomΩ]

Just commenting so i can read this thread later

[Nightmarian]

Tunnfisk lähetti viestin:

Looks like we'll be doing just fine without all those who dislike anti-cheat and 3rd person view. :TuraHappy:

Here's hoping for the best, but that doesn't say much. It has no other real MP competition. Suicide Squad topped the list too and for a live service game had pitiful peak numbers, less than half of Marvel Avengers and we know how that went.

I'm hoping between crossplay and the game hopefully being good it gets legs, though the devs still actually have to add content to validate the live service part.

Darktide forgot that part I guess.

[JackBaldy]

phlux lähetti viestin:

I said they are by revenue, not total revenue. That's also why i said "So only 6 games on the entirety of Steam made more money AT THE MOMENT."
Total revenue is not interesting because it's supposed to be a trending page and not a history page.
So just read what i wrote exactly and don't try to twist it so you can attack it.

I'm not twisting anything, what you stated was devoid of context that your source provided. "At the moment" can mean any number of different things, while your source was rather pin point in explaining that in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really mean much. Which you seem to agree with in any case.

Point is, your claim was misleading even if technically correct in the most pedantic of ways.

phlux lähetti viestin:

But you're right that being on the Top-Sellers list for a moment doesn't mean much. What counts is how long you can stay there.
But HD2 is on it's upwards trend leading up to it's release date so it's reasonable to expect it standing there and even going up even further until it's release, reach it's peak there and than slowly sinking again.
That's how that cycle usually works.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part without more numbers.

phlux lähetti viestin:

The comparison to Suicide Squad (which i agree is not that strong of an argument becuase of how bad Suisice Squad is) comes from Suicide Squad being released already AND being the way bigger IP I suppose.

The comparison is there to illustrate that irrespective of a game being on the top sellers list for quite some time (Like "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League"), it's ultimately a shallow "victory" at the end of the day.

At the end of the day, it doesn't mean much and you can have all the wishful thinking in the world that this trend will blossom into something more, but much like "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League" proved, it doesn't always mean that.

phlux lähetti viestin:

So the performance of HD2 looking at it as the small production it is is still pretty impressive for it to reach the position is has right now already. And it will most likely hold or improve the position until launch.

Helldivers 2 has the backing of Sony and Arrowhead at this point in time has already made countless games. To the point where they could afford to have ~9 years between their last game and their most recent game (Helldivers 1 & Helldivers 2). It's far removed from being a small production like Magicka 1 was.

As for the last part, again, that's wishful thinking not based on any hard data available. A shallow "victory" at best.

[Shibby]

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

Shibby lähetti viestin:

Suicide Squad was on the top seller list too and it didn't even beat the Avengers game in player count.

Suicide Squad is still on the top seller list, a little below Helldivers. It currently only has 6k players, lol.

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

[JackBaldy]

Shibby lähetti viestin:

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

People out here pretending that this game is pulling in Baldur's Gate 3 numbers because it has a spot in the top sellers list... for now.

[Little Critter]

phlux lähetti viestin:

EdibleChihuahua lähetti viestin:

Oh yeah they can talk ♥♥♥♥, but you can avoid the headache and let them congregate amongst themselves while they pat each other on the back while they do nothing but complain.

I could do that sure but i like the discourse with people who have different opinions than me.
As wrong as it might seem to me it has the potential for everybody to learn some things so why let the opportunity go away?
Just don't take it too seriously and most important don't start to identify yourself with your own position and you can have alot of fun in these discussions ;)

Right. Keep fighting the good fight pal. I’m just going to unsubscribe from everything and stop giving a ♥♥♥♥.

[JackBaldy]

EdibleChihuahua lähetti viestin:

Right. Keep fighting the good fight pal. I’m just going to unsubscribe to everything and stop giving a ♥♥♥♥.

Doubt.

[Nightmarian]

Shibby lähetti viestin:

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

Suicide Squad is still on the top seller list, a little below Helldivers. It currently only has 6k players, lol.

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

The top sellers charts are just overall useless, games like CoD will jump to the top just because they threw out a new $40 skin pack of Snoop Dog.

It's also weighed against competition, so you really need the context of what else is there, i.e. Helldivers 2 is basically the game of the week and has zero competition on Steam, especially in the multiplayer space which tends to do big.

The only time the top sellers is impressive is when games like Baldur's Gate 3 are still way up there for this long, because it already sold so well and pulled such high player numbers that it's kind of bonkers there are still tons of people buying it weekly three months after release.

[Shibby]

JackBaldy lähetti viestin:

Shibby lähetti viestin:

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

People out here pretending that this game is pulling in Baldur's Gate 3 numbers because it has a spot in the top sellers list... for now.

I hope the game is everything the devs have said it will be and that they are fair about how the MTXs will work but I have been burned way too many time with promises of the grind being "not that bad" for me to be excited. Better to be indifferent about it as you won't be disappointed.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Shibby lähetti viestin:

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

Suicide Squad is still on the top seller list, a little below Helldivers. It currently only has 6k players, lol.

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

I know, I'm agreeing with you. A game being on the top seller list means nothing. We don't know how many of those players are going to actually play it, and how many are going to refund it or ignore it. It's a Sony-backed exclusive, so it's essentially automatically given a spot on the top sellers for its release.

I think everybody who's bringing up that it's a top seller is just coping. If they actually felt like the game was going to be successful they wouldn't feel the need to go argue with people on the forums about it.

[JackBaldy]

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

I think everybody who's bringing up that it's a top seller is just coping. If they actually felt like the game was going to be successful they wouldn't feel the need to go argue with people on the forums about it.

It's kind of funny how some people feel the need to defend the honour of these soulless corporations, for free. xD

[Shibby]

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

Shibby lähetti viestin:

That's kind of my point in that it's really hard to gauge anything from the top seller chart unless it's on there for weeks at a time.

I know, I'm agreeing with you. A game being on the top seller list means nothing. We don't know how many of those players are going to actually play it, and how many are going to refund it or ignore it. It's a Sony-backed exclusive, so it's essentially automatically given a spot on the top sellers for its release.

I think everybody who's bringing up that it's a top seller is just coping. If they actually felt like the game was going to be successful they wouldn't feel the need to go argue with people on the forums about it.

I didn't mean to imply you weren't sorry if it came off that way. I want the game to be great but I am not blind to some potential issues that can come from the way they are doing some things.

[OldSnake]

EdibleChihuahua lähetti viestin:

Stop, you're gonna make the "champions of gaming and privacy" mald even harder.

Man, you guys are too simple to even understand that the privacy issue isn´t the point.
Let´s what software and hardware issues will be coming up day one...

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Shibby lähetti viestin:

Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist lähetti viestin:

I know, I'm agreeing with you. A game being on the top seller list means nothing. We don't know how many of those players are going to actually play it, and how many are going to refund it or ignore it. It's a Sony-backed exclusive, so it's essentially automatically given a spot on the top sellers for its release.

I think everybody who's bringing up that it's a top seller is just coping. If they actually felt like the game was going to be successful they wouldn't feel the need to go argue with people on the forums about it.

I didn't mean to imply you weren't sorry if it came off that way. I want the game to be great but I am not blind to some potential issues that can come from the way they are doing some things.

I also want the game to be great, looks really cool. But there are some things I'm worried about, so I refunded my preorder and will wait and see how things turn out to see if I buy it again.