HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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DaniSans Feb 3, 2024 @ 4:20am
STOP THE ONLINE ONLY, ANTI CHEAT MADNESS
The disrespect you're showing to the fan base is incredible. So many years of playing offline helldivers at a friend's house with crappy Internet... That future for this game is gone if you continue down this road.
So many people here and on Reddit are stating their disappointment and their cancelling of pre orders/boycott.

So many of us are sick of this always online no matter what crap. I am a die hard fan of HD1 but even I am not wanting to "rent" this game.
I don't want root level anti cheat deep diving into my computer either.
Why are you so dead set on burning all the goodwill you've built up? Is it the MTX money?

Reverse the anti cheat and allow us to play offline without an Internet connection. This is what people want.
We want to support you guys but this is not it..
I don't want to "rent" or allow you to "allow" me to play the game I payed for, and then when the servers go down or my Internet goes down I can no longer play the game I own.



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EDIT/ADDITION
I see some of you mentioning "it's multiplayer, get friends, cry more, doesn't matter etc.."
So I just wanted to add some responses rather than respond individually to each.

1) All those shiny new steam decks where those who travel and take them with you, well no wifi no steam deck play (if it will even be compatible due to the kernel level anti-cheat, another knock against that lol.)

2) I've played Helldivers 1 online and offline with, AND without friends.. Solo, not solo.
Why all you salty folks want LESS flexibility to play years from now, where you want, and LESS ownership over your games is wild to me. Why
The game does not need to be online only. This was a choice made by Sony or Arrowhead.

3) Like many have mentioned both on reddit and on steam.. This anticheat is overkill for a PVE only game. You will typically see this type of anticheat more so in very high stakes PVPVE/PVP only multiplayer games.
AND mind you this in combination WITH online only. I think people may be more understanding if only one of these things were to be in the game: Online only OR Anticheat/DRM.
Instead arrowhead has implemented both which is extreme overkill for this type of non competitive game. Clearly this is to protect the MTXs. All of you playing defense for this type of anti consumer gaming is very surprising.


4)Multiplayer games do not need to be online only. some people play with AI teammates (yes I'm aware that's not how this game or HD1 works, but many other games function this way offline.) Some people do not live in a place with consistent internet. Just because of where you live has great internet, doesn't mean that the rest of the US or the world has equally good internet. Unless you want me to move into your house for free.... I'm not moving just because I want to play some online only game that doesn't need to be that way in the first place! I've lived in big cities where the internet still sucks. So don't throw that "move out of the barn" arguments :>
Last edited by DaniSans; Feb 4, 2024 @ 7:24pm
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OldSnake Feb 3, 2024 @ 10:34am 
Remove nGuard and insta buy.
Flamescion Feb 3, 2024 @ 11:13am 
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If you were a die-hard fan, you probably wouldn't let little things get in the way of your enjoyment of games.
Kraze Feb 3, 2024 @ 11:22am 
lol no. Helldivers is all about multiplayer, baby, get over it.
Tony Hawk Tuah Feb 3, 2024 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Flamescion:
If you were a die-hard fan, you probably wouldn't let little things get in the way of your enjoyment of games.
The anti cheat in question is not a little thing. And the games not even coming out finished. Battle pass in game shop just ridiculous
Gilmore Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Cry more.
Owndizzel Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:17pm 
Message received, loud and clear.

Product Purchased.
Lucky Cat Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
You did realize Helldivers 1 was online only before, right? Their mistake when they ported it to PC was inadequate anti-cheat. And more so, it is absolutely required if they're doing cross-play for Helldivers 2. PS5 may not suffer as much on its own but if they to share with us on PC, its a necessity. Although the only iffy part is the choice of Anticheat but even then, this uproar is easily excessive and unwarranted.
Last edited by Lucky Cat; Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:48pm
Chefkoch2k Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:51pm 
Welcome to 2024+
Flamescion Feb 3, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by me hoy minoy:
Originally posted by Flamescion:
If you were a die-hard fan, you probably wouldn't let little things get in the way of your enjoyment of games.
The anti cheat in question is not a little thing. And the games not even coming out finished. Battle pass in game shop just ridiculous

The anticheat is of little matter; those are everywhere these days, and the vast majority of anticheat solutions are kernel-level. Everyone has probably played a game with such a solution at one point or another.

Also, the monetization seems fine. And it's a game they want to support long-term. Contrary to what most people believe, game sales are -not- the strongest source of revenue, and supporting and developing content for games costs big money.

People are greatly exaggerating how big these issues actually are.
Bloodyboo12 Feb 3, 2024 @ 1:49pm 
"Wahh, I want to cheat and ruin the experience for others"
Kiggles Feb 3, 2024 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Lucky Cat:
You did realize Helldivers 1 was online only before, right? Their mistake when they ported it to PC was inadequate anti-cheat. And more so, it is absolutely required if they're doing cross-play for Helldivers 2. PS5 may not suffer as much on its own but if they to share with us on PC, its a necessity. Although the only iffy part is the choice of Anticheat but even then, this uproar is easily excessive and unwarranted.
Helldivers 1 works offline fine.
Khaylain Feb 3, 2024 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:
"Wahh, I want to cheat and ruin the experience for others"
Don't be obtuse.
Bryan Fury Feb 3, 2024 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by DaniSans:
Reverse the anti cheat and allow us to play offline without an Internet connection. This is what people want.
What people? Loners? I don't care, find friends, because playing in multi/coop is way better than being alone.
Soji Feb 3, 2024 @ 5:37pm 
how will you look at their cash shop if you're offline???
Infected Mushroom Feb 3, 2024 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by Lucky Cat:
You did realize Helldivers 1 was online only before, right? Their mistake when they ported it to PC was inadequate anti-cheat. And more so, it is absolutely required if they're doing cross-play for Helldivers 2. PS5 may not suffer as much on its own but if they to share with us on PC, its a necessity. Although the only iffy part is the choice of Anticheat but even then, this uproar is easily excessive and unwarranted.
This level of anticheat isn't going to deter people who want to cheat. It will however harm legit players by having this level of trash malware installed. Should i post some videos of all the kernel level anti cheat games with hacks? ain't going to change a thing.
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Date Posted: Feb 3, 2024 @ 4:20am
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