Franklin D. Roosevelt - FDR scam (DO NOT WASTE YOUR STEEL!!!)

[Bruce]

As you all might have probably noticed that WG destroyed the CVs. And that's because a part of the community was crying all the time about them being OP. How come the majority of the players that were crying about them are the ones that actually have bad stats? And now they are just useless (except Max Immelmann). Only thing they do best now is spotting. Just remove them already.

And the fact that i payed 33k steel for Roosevelt and now it is going to get nerfed for the second time is absolutely stunning. WG doesn't even bother reducing it's price, instead they nerf a ship that was supposed to be OP cause not everyone can get it AND not everyone can be good with it. Plus they don't even refund steel for the scam they are doing right now.

They lost me as client a while ago for their bad decisions and i 'm pretty sure they will lose much mooore in the near future.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

FDR was and is a disgustingly overpowered dumpster fire of a ship that should never have been released in the first place. Good on them for finally nerfing it, but they're about a year too late.

Not much of a nerf anyway, each plane still has about 50% more health than the equivalent on a normal carrier.

[fawkee]

if u waana play cv u need practice. try it again and again

[Bruce]

Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:

FDR was and is a disgustingly overpowered dumpster fire of a ship that should never have been released in the first place. Good on them for finally nerfing it, but they're about a year too late.

Not much of a nerf anyway, each plane still has about 50% more health than the equivalent on a normal carrier.

Have you even played that ship? I agree that it should have never been released anyway but nerfing a ship that costs 33k steel, is not extremely OP as you say but OP enough to justify its cost and there is not a single mention of lowering its price or refunding some steel is a total scam on your face.

It used to be an OP ship that matched the price they wanted you to pay for it. And that's about it. You think that having 50% more health on planes that are super super slow is disgustingly overpowered?? You can't do ♥♥♥♥ anymore with attack planes cause they take 10 minutes to hit their target, dropping bombs do maximum 15k damage and that's if you are lucky or a pro player and every bomb is a pen and last but not the least torpedoes take ages to aim. So what the heck are you talking about?? And not to mention AGAIN that you need to be GOOD to do some damage with it.

[Lavian]

Yeah, no. Ships aren't "supposed to be OP."

There's no such thing as being "OP enough to justify its cost." Nothing should be OP, period.

I don't give a damn how much a ship costs. I paid more than the cost of a AAA video game for AL Sovetskaya Rossiya and she's straight up worse than Sovetsky Soyuz (her tech tree sister), and you know what? That's fine. She's still my third most used BB in the game (behind Dunkerque and AL Littorio) with over 200 battles logged. I didn't buy her because I thought she would give me some sort of advantage (and she sure doesn't, given her poor performance, statistically speaking), and I have no sympathy for anyone who feels burned by a purchase they made to get an advantage in a game that's fundamentally PVP in nature.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by Brakeman:

As you all might have probably noticed that WG destroyed the CVs. And that's because a part of the community was crying all the time about them being OP. How come the majority of the players that were crying about them are the ones that actually have bad stats? And now they are just useless (except Max Immelmann). Only thing they do best now is spotting. Just remove them already.

And the fact that i payed 33k steel for Roosevelt and now it is going to get nerfed for the second time is absolutely stunning. WG doesn't even bother reducing it's price, instead they nerf a ship that was supposed to be OP cause not everyone can get it AND not everyone can be good with it. Plus they don't even refund steel for the scam they are doing right now.

They lost me as client a while ago for their bad decisions and i 'm pretty sure they will lose much mooore in the near future.

I'm sorry you're unhappy with your free ship.
I'm not particularly happy with my FDR either, but it was free. The fact that I'm disappointed with my own performance in it doesn't mean it's a bad ship. The fact that you too aren't able to take advantage of her good points is immaterial. Most of the steel ships have upsides and downsides. You'll just have to play FDR a bit to figure out her upsides. They're there.

[AGT_ZURU]

Originally posted by Jack:

Originally posted by Brakeman:

As you all might have probably noticed that WG destroyed the CVs. And that's because a part of the community was crying all the time about them being OP. How come the majority of the players that were crying about them are the ones that actually have bad stats? And now they are just useless (except Max Immelmann). Only thing they do best now is spotting. Just remove them already.

And the fact that i payed 33k steel for Roosevelt and now it is going to get nerfed for the second time is absolutely stunning. WG doesn't even bother reducing it's price, instead they nerf a ship that was supposed to be OP cause not everyone can get it AND not everyone can be good with it. Plus they don't even refund steel for the scam they are doing right now.

They lost me as client a while ago for their bad decisions and i 'm pretty sure they will lose much mooore in the near future.

I'm sorry you're unhappy with your free ship.
I'm not particularly happy with my FDR either, but it was free. The fact that I'm disappointed with my own performance in it doesn't mean it's a bad ship. The fact that you too aren't able to take advantage of her good points is immaterial. Most of the steel ships have upsides and downsides. You'll just have to play FDR a bit to figure out her upsides. They're there.

I have to wade-in... It is a Bad Ship.

Sure, it was 14 Aircraft per Flight. However, it can only use 2 of them at any one time.

Pros:
> 14 Aircraft upon Takeoff
> Good HP Pool on those Aircraft
> 19mm Armour on most sections, meaning Shells are very likely to Over-Penetrate
That is where all of the Pros end

Cons:
> AA Defences are Lacking in Range, and thus not great
> AA Defences have mediocre Damage
> Artillery has insufficient Range and thus will not defend the Ship from anything
> Concealment Range... There is no Hiding, can't be done
Onto the Actual Aircraft now...
> Can only use 2 Aircraft at a Time, so can't do a lot of Damage
> Airspeed of Aircraft reduces Effectiveness in Combat
-> The low Airspeed means that Aircraft are forced to remain out during Runs
-> Being out during Runs means the Aircraft take more Damage over a Longer period
-> In turn, most Aircraft are lost before they can do any real damage to anything
> Low Damage compared to other Carriers of even lower Tiers (USA Tier VIII Saipan)

I could go on, but I think we've pointed out how useless the thing is, that even the Tier VIII Saipan (which isn't even a good Ship) is actually better than the Tier X Roosevelt.

As much as the United States says about their Aircraft Carriers being 'The Best' out there... If this Game is anything to go by, they are actually the Worst.



So, what does this say about WarGaming as a Company?

[Jackson]

Well it's not useless. It's the highest performing CV. It's just harder to play than most of the others imo.

[AGT_ZURU]

Originally posted by Jack:

Well it's not useless. It's the highest performing CV. It's just harder to play than most of the others imo.

Urm... Highest Performing?
Talk to Frank, because you seem to be on something.

The 'Highest Performing' Carrier in the Game by far is just about every Russian Aircraft Carrier in the Game, followed by the German Aircraft Carriers.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Jack:

Well it's not useless. It's the highest performing CV. It's just harder to play than most of the others imo.

Urm... Highest Performing?
Talk to Frank, because you seem to be on something.

The 'Highest Performing' Carrier in the Game by far is just about every Russian Aircraft Carrier in the Game, followed by the German Aircraft Carriers.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/3760175088,Franklin-D-Roosevelt/
Soviet T10 isn't out yet.

Edit: FDR did do a lot better before the rocket nerf. It was almost OP then. It's not now. But it IS still a good performer for those that use it properly.

[Dani :3]

Yes, clearly it's only the bad players that hate CVs, that's why the top tier competitive players all constantly ask for CVs to be banned from tournaments and clan battles.

[g452]

With that 20sec delay between attacks you simply need to learn to play it properly. You can't play it like other CVs. Play it properly and you'll do well, before and after nerf.

[Lunacy]

I would want an FDR but it's impossible for me to collect that much Steel.

[sneakybass]

Originally posted by Brakeman:

As you all might have probably noticed that WG destroyed the CVs. And that's because a part of the community was crying all the time about them being OP. How come the majority of the players that were crying about them are the ones that actually have bad stats? And now they are just useless (except Max Immelmann). Only thing they do best now is spotting. Just remove them already.

And the fact that i payed 33k steel for Roosevelt and now it is going to get nerfed for the second time is absolutely stunning. WG doesn't even bother reducing it's price, instead they nerf a ship that was supposed to be OP cause not everyone can get it AND not everyone can be good with it. Plus they don't even refund steel for the scam they are doing right now.

They lost me as client a while ago for their bad decisions and i 'm pretty sure they will lose much mooore in the near future.

I'm still mad as hell about my Massachusetts tier 8 being nerfef for Its secondaries I paid cash for both . After years In the game decide to screw up Its secondaries. And now were getting ships that have better secondaries than the Massachusetts shells look like crap going down range makes me really mad. To nerf a ship after years In the game Is wrong ,just like the Thunderer nerf after Its been In the game for years. Nerfs on ships should be done In the first six months not years, just to have them play like crap so you buy the next best ship to come out.....or let the people use ships In game for six months nerf them If need be , and THEN RELEASE TO THE PLAYERS TO BUY. WG you want to make things right make the secondaries like they were before the holidays...And whats up with the daily crates don't ever get three coal any more even the guys on my clan say the same dam thing sounds like wg gone cheap again..Its been over a month or two.......better yet don't charge for captain resets It was a lot of fun messing with the skills I think the players deserve that. And I thought my taxes were high...........

[Jackson]

Originally posted by Lunacy:

I would want an FDR but it's impossible for me to collect that much Steel.

It is definitely not impossible. Just play every day and do ranked the bottom level of ranked battles. Even the worst players can do that easily. Should take a few months. It's not a short haul, but you'll get it.

[dakin1]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Jack:

Well it's not useless. It's the highest performing CV. It's just harder to play than most of the others imo.

Urm... Highest Performing?
Talk to Frank, because you seem to be on something.

The 'Highest Performing' Carrier in the Game by far is just about every Russian Aircraft Carrier in the Game, followed by the German Aircraft Carriers.

Have you actually faced a FDR being played by a competent CV player? I bet you change your mind if you have...