Performance is terrible

[Nero]

I am throwing a beast of a PC at this game:

i7 8700K
GTX 1080

and I get barely 60fps in 1440p on ultra.

Sorry but this is ridiculous. First of all the game doesn't look all that good to begin with. Yes its not ugly, but its not that great looking either. Especially the guns and animations and the world are rather poor. Some assets do look nice but this is 2018.

This game has to run on a console which has a fraction of the performance.


I have noticed this with all ubisoft games.

Wildlands has abysmal performance.
AC Origins barely gets 60 fps in 1080p which is a serious joke.
The list goes on.


I start to suspect that Ubisoft has a deal with Nvidia and AMD to make their games deliberately run badly so that you feel forced to buy an 800$ graphics card just to be able to play with 1080p 60fps.

[Eclipse]

i like good graphics myself. what games do you prefer the graphics/LOD ratio over this one? or do you know of a game that uses the same amount of resources but delivers higher fps? just curious cuz im looking for new games.

[Gerhard]

Look at some benchmarks of FC 5 and you will see that you got less fps than "normal"
(Gtx 1080) . It means it something with your hardware, settings etc etc, not the game. FC5 is less demanding than wildlands and AC origins.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Gerhard:

Look at some benchmarks of FC 5 and you will see that you got less fps than "normal"
(Gtx 1080) . It means it something with your hardware, settings etc etc, not the game. FC5 is less demanding than wildlands and AC origins.

No no no

I don't care about benchmarks from some site.

I had an old PC with an i7 4770k and GTX 1070 and it performed fine but performancein Ubisoft games and ONLY ubisoft games was terrible.

Now this PC is quite new, two months old. There is nothing wrong with it.

I play PC games for almost 25 years, and my drivers are up to date. I don't need people telling me that my PC has a problem. It can't be my PC because it performs as it should in other games.

[discombobulated1]

sounds like you lost the silicon lottery

[Gerhard]

I am not saying it's something wrong with your pc, but i got a Gtx 1080 and i got more fps than you. Take a search on the forum and you can see what fps others with a gtx 1080 have or maybe you get some other input on your thread. Your thread is like "because i got low fps" it's something wrong with the game. And i have played games for decades too. FC 5 perfomance is really good.

[Nero]

Originally posted by discombobulated1:

sounds like you lost the silicon lottery

Nah its just typical industry BS.

People say you can't play games in 4K with a GTX 1080 but I played Dirt 2 maxed out in 4K with a GTX 770.

Then a new console and GPU generation comes out and suddenly games that look barely any better require absurd amount of hardware to run even in 1080p.

I played Metro Last Light maxed out in 1080p with a GTX 770 ffs and got almost 60fps. And here you try to tell me its ok that a 1080 which is like 5 times more powerful can barely run games that look worse? (admittedly have open world but still).


Where's DX12 btw? Or Vulcan? Its another DX11 game apparently.

I can already give you a forecast. The RTX series will come and a year later or so Far Cry 6 and the 1080 will barely be able to play that anymore but it will run on an Xbox.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Eclipse:

i like good graphics myself. what games do you prefer the graphics/LOD ratio over this one? or do you know of a game that uses the same amount of resources but delivers higher fps? just curious cuz im looking for new games.

I'll come back to this and name a few soon. When its not work its the family keeping me busy. I don't have many games in the head atm.

MGSV comes to mind but its a bit old by now. Still looks pretty damn good. Runs in 4K maxed out with well over 60fps.

Red Faction Guerilla Remaster also comes to mind but thats an older game that got remastered.

State of Decay 2 but I play it on my Xbox One X.

Final Fantasy XV but I play it on my Xbox One X.

My good old Stalker comes to mind, especially with the Call of Chernobyl mod.

Oh Metro Exodus comes to mind but it isn't out yet.

Homefront comes to mind but thats an unoptimised mess.

I am reluctant to name Destiny 2 but I guess it would count.

Hunt: Showdown comes to mind.

The Deus Ex games come to mind.


You have to compare Open World games to other Open World games. Its not fair to compare it to one with small levels.

In Far Cry 5 the character models look like they're from a 6 year old game or older. The cars could be 8 years old. The guns of Call of Duty Ghosts look better than what we get here.

Also Far Cry 5 has close to no PhysX or "Levolution" going on. So why does it eat up that many ressources? It can't be the spreading fire either, thats no better than what it did in Far Cry 2 except for better flame textures/particles or whatever they use. It isn't technically more advanced in any way.

Crysis 2 is 7 years old by now and with the HD textures looks about equal to Far Cry 5 and I played that too with a 770.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

adjust your settings ? i see a GTX 1060 getting 60 FPS with AC origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eE-NxIBDaA

i have no problem getting 60 with my rig in FC 5 and a GTX 1060 with a OC i 5 7600 K
i also use older Nvidia drivers tho and play in 1080 P .. yea GTX 1080 is a decent card .. but i think your gonna need a second one if you wanna max your settings in FC 5 ..

use the in game benchmark tool

lower things like shadows .. first ..you wont notice it much by lower them just a bit to get better FPS .

tweak a bit to find the best settings for your system

if your looking for 4 k game play .. yea your gonna need 2 1080 's in SLI
it even says that in the read me file the game installed on your PC

dunno why your having probs with 1440 P tho

even hardocp just recently benched the game an got decent results on a GTX 1080
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/16/nvidia_gpu_generational_performance_part_3/16

[Nero]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

adjust your settings ? i see a GTX 1060 getting 60 FPS with AC origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eE-NxIBDaA

i have no problem getting 60 with my rig in FC 5 and a GTX 1060 with a OC i 5 7600 K
i also use older Nvidia drivers tho

Maybe you should watch the video. He's playing it with many settings at medium, also those settings at High would go all the way to Very High and then Ultra.

I never claimed that a 1060 could not play AC Origin on medium in 1080p with any less than 60fps. Frankly its rather shocking how poor that GPU performs considering its equal to a 980 in performance and in price to a PS4.

It also shows very well how the amount of VRAM is unimportant. It barely fills 2GB so even 3 or the 4 of the 980 would suffice. Barely any game was able to fill my 1070 up to 4GB.

But all that fake media is telling you all to go buy a 8GB card or even better an 11GB card.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

and again the game does not use that much Vram

hell on my Giabyte GTX 1060 i have everything on high or ultra .. i'm not even hitting 3 gig of V ram ..

you wanna hit more v ram use play in 4 k ..but your FPS will tank on a single GTX 1080

[-=SOF=-WID99]

i think the issue your seeing is Ubi does not optimize games for what is out NOW ..then never do
they leave head room for the next GPU series so the games do not go stale

they did the same with FC 3 and 4

heck i remember when FC 3 shipped ..i had a top of the line Nvidia GPU in 2012 ..it sucks compared to my GTX 960 in that game .. and my GTX 1060 plays it even better

i do not think Ubi makes games just to based to run on whats out now ...at max settings is what i'm saying .. they leave a lil headroom in the engine ..and try to optimize toward future GPU's and hardware a lil bit .. if you wanna max out the game and all its settings see the read me file on your hard disk .. to play in 4 k 60 FPS it says crossfire vega's or gtx 1080 ti's

and again 1440 P should be no problem with a single GTX 1080
(once you adjust your settings correctly )

i can show ya other benchmarks HARD OCP recently did on FC 5

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/07/25/nvidia_gpu_generational_performance_part_1/16

here they are getting a min of 75 FPS with FC 5 on a single GTX 1080 in 1440 P

https://www.pcgamer.com/far-cry-5-settings-and-benchmarks/

[Zapek]

Why do you put everything on ultra? There are some settings that will really slow down your GPU without any noticeable visual gain.

I have a GTX 970 and get 50-60 fps at 1440p. Here's what I use:

- texture filtering: ultra
- shadows: normal (this one is usually nasty)
- geometry & vegetation: low
- environment: normal
- water: low
- terrain: normal
- volumetric fog: low
- anti-aliasing: SMAA
- motion blur: off
- vsync: off (I have g-sync)
- framerate lock: off
- dynamic resolution: off
- resolution scale: 1

Just play around with the settings and run the built in benchmark until you get what you want.

The reason those games run well on consoles is because the developers chose them for you on these platform. We have more settings on the PC version but that doesn't mean we have to put everything to ultra and then complain because "it's not optimized". All that complaining will just make the developers end up renaming "normal" to "ultra" and be happy.

The dunia engine is perfectly fine and well optimized.

[Nero]

See this is crazy too. A 970 is stronger than a 780ti and yet you're forced to play with all kinds of settings at low even. The 780ti was I think among the best cards you could have when Far Cry 4 released. 5 doesn't look much better if at all. i skipped 4, only played it for an hour then gave up because of crashes at release.

Zapek you should really consider going down to 1080p so you can increase many of the settings. Especially geometry & vegetation. The game has got to look hideous for you.

Volumetric fog is indeed a setting that eats lots of performance for no big gain in fidelity. Also I don't have the shadow setting maxed out its down one notch. Motion Blur is disabled too.


Shadows is a very nasty setting in GTA V and Wildlands.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

never had a single crash in FC 4 over 1200 hours played

used the following vid cards PERSONALLY here
AMD HD 7750 1 gig GPU
GTX 750 ti
AMD R 9 270 2 gig GPU
ASUS strix gtx 960 2 gig model GPU
gigabyte GTX 1060 6 gig card

[Nero]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

never had a single crash in FC 4 over 1200 hours played

Ah that was in the first days when it released. It was quite the wreck. Far more so than Watchdogs if you remember that one. It got patched quite quickly.

Watchdogs still has the graphical error from back in the day. They gave it away for free. Too bad that you can see shadows and light and stuff through walls in it due to a bug. I remember that pirates fixed that in the pirated version within weeks of release xDDD