Far Cry 5

Far Cry 5

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LithiuMart Apr 16, 2018 @ 11:40am
Expensive guns have the same spec as cheap ones.
As the title suggests, this is pretty much my only gripe with the game. For example, what's the point in actually buying a $9000 Stars & Stripes assault rifle when it does the same thing as the AR-C you can for much, much less? You're pretty much only paying for a paint job. I just wish a lot of the guns had more variety and the cost was actually reflected in their attributes.
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The point is...skins. Just skins.

The "prestige" version contains a skin that the basic version lacks, that's why you pay many times more. It also works as a separate and independent version of the basic weapon, with its own attachments. So you can have the same weapon added twice to the loadout with different attachments as well, not that it justifies paying that much in any case, lol.
Last edited by DEVOLVE MINHA CACHAÇA!; Apr 16, 2018 @ 11:48am
MooP Apr 16, 2018 @ 11:48am 
Why this title has the worst weapon arsenal in all of the series... Ubisoft thinks skins means a different weapon... There are also 3 or 4 different revolvers that pretty much have all the same stats just different models & around three 1911s that are all the same just different skin bases... Also the fact 3/5 SMGs are just different MP5 types/models... :steamfacepalm:

I'm already bored of this game because of the lack of gunplay... 90% of the enemies use the same AR & all the guns feel bland over time...

A title thats suppose to be in the USA sure does lack the weapon arsenal the rest of the world believes we pack...
Last edited by MooP; Apr 16, 2018 @ 11:58am
I mean its not like the gun shoots a different caliber its literally an AR-C with a nice paint job. Also some people might not like the firearms with special skins, so making them the best guns in the game would kind of suck.
Splat ♥ Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:08pm 
Because they carry over across all characters even if you delete your save if you buy them with silver
MikeOxbig Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by «(MooP)»:
Why this title has the worst weapon arsenal in all of the series... Ubisoft thinks skins means a different weapon... There are also 3 or 4 different revolvers that pretty much have all the same stats just different models & around three 1911s that are all the same just different skin bases... Also the fact 3/5 SMGs are just different MP5 types/models... :steamfacepalm:

I'm already bored of this game because of the lack of gunplay... 90% of the enemies use the same AR & all the guns feel bland over time...

A title thats suppose to be in the USA sure does lack the weapon arsenal the rest of the world believes we pack...

I agree. I'm pretty upset by the lack of guns, i mean i have more guns in my house than this entire game :lol: Some don't even make sense like why the hell can we buy an MP-40 but not a Thompson? :awkward: Im suprised they didn't have hidden guns that you need to do stuff for like in FarCry3. :story:
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
Originally posted by «(MooP)»:
Why this title has the worst weapon arsenal in all of the series... Ubisoft thinks skins means a different weapon... There are also 3 or 4 different revolvers that pretty much have all the same stats just different models & around three 1911s that are all the same just different skin bases... Also the fact 3/5 SMGs are just different MP5 types/models... :steamfacepalm:

I'm already bored of this game because of the lack of gunplay... 90% of the enemies use the same AR & all the guns feel bland over time...

A title thats suppose to be in the USA sure does lack the weapon arsenal the rest of the world believes we pack...

I agree. I'm pretty upset by the lack of guns, i mean i have more guns in my house than this entire game :lol: Some don't even make sense like why the hell can we buy an MP-40 but not a Thompson? :awkward: Im suprised they didn't have hidden guns that you need to do stuff for like in FarCry3. :story:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.
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MooP Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:

I agree. I'm pretty upset by the lack of guns, i mean i have more guns in my house than this entire game :lol: Some don't even make sense like why the hell can we buy an MP-40 but not a Thompson? :awkward: Im suprised they didn't have hidden guns that you need to do stuff for like in FarCry3. :story:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.

That buddy has nothing to do with my issues I posted above... Go check out the wiki pages for FC3 & FC4 you can see that FC5 lacks so many weapons compared to the previous titles its a fact not "ad infinitum"...
Last edited by MooP; Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:38pm
MikeOxbig Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.

Dude all i'm saying is the game is based in Montana, USA....
Why the hell would they have an MP-40 instead of an American WW2 smg? :awkward:

And sorry on-topic I don't see really any point in buying the exspenisve skin guns unless you just like the paint job.
Last edited by MikeOxbig; Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:43pm
Splat ♥ Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.

Dude all i'm saying is the game is based in Montana, USA....
Why the hell would they have an MP-40 instead of an American WW2 smg? :awkward:

Because fiction?
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.

Dude all i'm saying is the game is based in Montana, USA....
Why the hell would they have an MP-40 instead of an American WW2 smg? :awkward:

Sorry, son, but you completely missed the point.

I'll spare you the effort of thinking it over, because you appear to be a little ignorant. The point is: you will keep asking for stuff until you are happy with the product, but the problem is, you won't, never, be. One thing leads to another, and if any developer keeps fulfilling individual expectations such as yours, instead of focusing on the greater numbers, no product would be ever released to the market.

If the feature you look for in a game is gun variety, you are looking at the wrong place.
MikeOxbig Apr 16, 2018 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:
you appear to be a little ignorant.

but the problem is, you won't, never, be.
In the same post^

Yeah I'm the one who's ignorant... :cfacepalm:
By the way the point is that I'm not asking for anything. I love the game the way it is. Yes the lack of weapons is a bit sad, but I still enjoy the game tremendously. Again all I was saying is why in Montana would there be a German Mp-40 instead of some type of American SMG? :story:
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:
you appear to be a little ignorant.

but the problem is, you won't, never, be.
In the same post^

Yeah I'm the one who's ignorant... :cfacepalm:

I see now you are not just a little ignorant, but also pretty stupid to take two sentences out of their original context to conjecture something you think makes any sense. How about keeping logical here, is that so hard? Refrain from using fallacies if that is not asking too much.

Again, if it is not clear yet: the product will always lack something if you do not limit yourself to what the game offers.

Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
By the way the point is that I'm not asking for anything. I love the game the way it is. Yes the lack of weapons is a bit sad, but I still enjoy the game tremendously. Again all I was saying is why in Montana would there be a German Mp-40 instead of some type of American SMG? :story:

Because the game designers thought it would be cool to add german, or even russian guns (don't forget kalashnikovs have been in the series ever since Far Cry 2) to the game, so to give a little variety to the weapon options, perhaps?
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-=SOF=-WID99 Apr 16, 2018 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by MikeOxbig #SHOVEL KNIGHTS:
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:

You know this is ad infinitum, do you?

"If they added an MP-40, Why nota Thompson? If they added the tommy, why not an M1 Garand? If they added the Garand, why not a Mosin-Nagant?"

People will never, ever, be happy with what they got.

Dude all i'm saying is the game is based in Montana, USA....
Why the hell would they have an MP-40 instead of an American WW2 smg? :awkward:

And sorry on-topic I don't see really any point in buying the exspenisve skin guns unless you just like the paint job.
cuz old WW2 Grease guns are hard to find ? i have only seen a few in 40 + years of going to Gun shows here in the states ..i have seen the MP 40 pop up alot at some of the better shows

the old M 1 garand was not an SMG
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also yea i do admit i'd rather have a tompson then an MP 40 ..but the thompson was also not an SMG as its big and heavy .. they are fun to fire in real life too (my buddie used to have one )

but the old ww 2 grease guns .. in 45 ACP were really inaccurate ..so kinda glad they went with the MP 40 9 mm

see also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_40

Civilian ownership
United States
Following the Allied occupation of Europe in 1945, U.S. servicemen shipped home thousands of captured firearms as war trophies,[20] including MP 40s. This practice required proper registration of automatic weapons in accordance with the National Firearms Act before they could be imported, but this was curtailed later in the occupation, meaning a relatively small number of civilian-transferable MP 40 remain in circulation and are valued around $15,000 as of 2017.[21]

There are several semi-automatic variants and cosmetic replicas of the MP 40 available for civilian ownership in the U.S. Beginning in 2014, American Tactical Imports began importing a MP 40 replica manufactured by German Sporting Guns GmbH chambered in .22LR,[22] and since 2016 has also imported a pistol variant chambered in 9mm.[23] The .22LR variant features an all-metal construction with period-accurate Bakelite furniture, a folding stock, and a faux-suppressor to meet barrel length import requirements. The 9mm variant is classified as a pistol and therefore does not ship with a folding stock. Both variants are closed-bolt, blowback-operated semi-automatic firearms that vary substantially from originally manufactured MP 40s in internal operations, making them more of affordable cosmetic replicas than faithful reproductions. Neither of the GSG-manufactured variants are compatible with originally manufactured MP 40 parts and magazines.[citation needed]
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JinKo82 Apr 16, 2018 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by LithiuMart:
As the title suggests, this is pretty much my only gripe with the game. For example, what's the point in actually buying a $9000 Stars & Stripes assault rifle when it does the same thing as the AR-C you can for much, much less? You're pretty much only paying for a paint job. I just wish a lot of the guns had more variety and the cost was actually reflected in their attributes.
because you cant buy the AK at the start of the game but for a few grand you can. this is one of the best features in my opinion. kill a few animals and sell the skins then buy a good gun
MikeOxbig Apr 16, 2018 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:

I see now you are not just a little ignorant, but also pretty stupid to take two sentences out of their original context to conjecture something you think makes any sense. How about keeping logical here, is that so hard? Refrain from using fallacies if that is not asking too much.

Again, if it is not clear yet: the product will always lack something if you do not limit yourself to what the game offers.
Cool story bro https://imgur.com/HzqYyMA

Originally posted by Joselito Notion Lacking:
Because the game designers thought it would be cool to add german, or even russian guns (don't forget kalashnikovs have been in the series ever since Far Cry 2) to the game, so to give a little variety to the weapon options, perhaps?

The Kalashnikov was and still is one of the most mass produced weapons in the world so obviously that's why it's in just about EVERY game that has firearms. The Mp-40 being as famous as it is and wildly produced still seems a bit off for a back woods county in Montana to have instead of some WW2 Die hard americans Thompson SMG. Again I love the game and the Mp-40, but just doesnt fit.

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:
but the thompson was also not an SMG as its big and heavy .. they are fun to fire in real life too (my buddie used to have one )
It fires a .45 acp and can fire it full auto. It's a SMG :awkward:
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