I got banned from the BR Discord for using Vencord

[Echoes]

So I woke up today to the news that I was suddenly banned from the BR Discord for "TOS violations". At first, I was confused as to why they would ban me for no reason, but then I remembered posting something last night that caught one of the mods' attention.

Last night, one of the RP groups for BR that I was in got hacked, with the hacker hijacking the owner's account and turning the server into complete anarchy, doing things like:

• Changing the group's name to "pee pee poo poo land"
  
• Changing various channel names to dodgy stuff like "beta cuck", "furry porn", and "fnaf NSFW" (no actual porn was posted though)
  
• Spamming memes and mentions in general chat
  
• Hijacking other member's accounts in the group and making them say things that wouldn't normally say

Naturally, I took a screenshot of all the chaos that was going on and posted it to the main discord to report what was happening. However, instead of taking immediate action, the mods were more concerned about why my Discord chat looked different from normal Discord, as they noticed that it's UI looked glossier and had a bunch of features that vanilla Discord doesn't have. Since it was nearing my bedtime, I had no time to defend myself and logged off thinking nothing of it. Then the next morning, I wake up to find that I've been permabanned from the server. It takes me a moment to realize that they have a rule that bans anyone that uses client mods. Let me take a moment to tell you all why this rule is stupid.

For those who don't know, client mods are discord mods that allow you to modify Discord in any way, such as changing the UI or adding features not present in vanilla Discord. The three most popular client mods that people use are BetterDiscord, Vencord (which is what I use) and Replugged. As the creators of these mods state clearly on their download sites, client mods do technically break Discord TOS. But here's the kicker: Discord is not actively seeking out those with client mods . There are hundreds of videos on YouTube that talk about how to install client mods or showcasing new plugins/themes for people to try out. If Discord really did care about their TOS, videos like these would not exist and there would be way more people banned. This is why I'm not banned from Discord entirely, just the BR server.

Another thing to note is that the client mods I mentioned above are extremely popular. Each of these have their own Discord servers, with Vencord alone having over 62k members. This shows that client mod users are way more prevalent on Discord than many think, and are often hiding in plain sight since other people can't see what themes or plugins a client modder is using (unless they take a screenshot of their chat).

So to the mods of the BR Discord who think they've saved the day by banning what you think is an evil hacker, I'm not the only client modder on your server. There are many others hiding in plain sight that you don't know about. Unless you decide to go on a great purge and ban people in the server left and right for suspected use of client mods, it's better to just not bother enforcing the rule to begin with.

EDIT: So I've looked through a few comments and many people were saying that client mods allow you to see deleted messages and do bad things with them. First of all, none of the plugins I have installed involve seeing deleted messages. They're all just basic QoL stuff like a "Read All" button or seeing who is currently typing a message. Secondly, I can't even find such a plugin on my client mod's plugin page. Seriously, I typed in various prompts relating to seeing deleted messages and nothing popped up. which shows that not even the devs of these client mods would want such a plugin to exist.
My intent with having a client mod was never meant to be malicious. I first got into them because they provided a lot of features that Discord was too lazy to implement on their own (In fact, it was thanks to this YouTuber that I was first made aware of these). I never wanted to blackmail or dox anyone. I just wanted my improve my Discord experience, and nothing else. This will be the last time I will be commenting on this, as I do not want to deal with this petty drama anymore. Goodbye.

[e.]

Okay

[Bob]

thats unfortunate

[Bean Man]

sad

[legodragonfly2013]

im crying rn bacause of this

[penguin]

Damn, that sucks

[Mr. Danjrfan]

damn man that sucks

[gekinatracksuit]

1: ngl it was probably Andi_Pog, I heard he takes his job wayyyy too seriously (I just checked and it was).
2: There is a rule that prevents you from taking external issues (In this case, your RP server) into the server.
3: What were the mods in the BRD supposed to do? Go in to another server and somehow fix all of the problems?
4: You never explained why Discord mods are against ToS.

[Finni_112]

Sad hope they unban you if thats real or if there was no hacker or they just did it you never know but rn im believing you if u lie imma be ANGRY

[Finni_112]

but the way like you say this sounds really smart like u need to know that it got hacked if u write it that long salute for you Bro :(

[Finni_112]

i just realised something i think u can get banned in the threads when u have that adult stuff not censored because in the threads thres no age limit

[hillyhaven]

Originally posted by gekinatracksuit:

1: ngl it was probably Andi_Pog, I heard he takes his job wayyyy too seriously (I just checked and it was).
2: There is a rule that prevents you from taking external issues (In this case, your RP server) into the server.
3: What were the mods in the BRD supposed to do? Go in to another server and somehow fix all of the problems?
4: You never explained why Discord mods are against ToS.

soo what is echo supposed to do?

[✡︎Negev✡]

Ohh that's sad

[hillyhaven]

Originally posted by gekinatracksuit:

1: ngl it was probably Andi_Pog, I heard he takes his job wayyyy too seriously (I just checked and it was).
2: There is a rule that prevents you from taking external issues (In this case, your RP server) into the server.
3: What were the mods in the BRD supposed to do? Go in to another server and somehow fix all of the problems?
4: You never explained why Discord mods are against ToS.

they add "illegal" modifications by allowing you to use nitro and such things without actually subbing to nitro and doing weird modifications that could possibly mess with other users (also seeing deleted messages which can technically violate discords own TOS where they claimed any deleted messages are not kept by discord (only if reported) (etc etc)

[hillyhaven]

seems like they wont do anything as nouser723 asked the mods

[Alex Monamochamuch]

I can’t speak for them , I’m not a true moderator for the brick rigs discord server but in my experience when it comes down to bottom line client modifications are against TOS

Brick rigs is a verified server. They have to follow discord TOS to as precisely as they can (they represent discord as a verified server)

Some things may slip through the cracks. But like stated before , that is a violation of TOS , at least from last time I read it