Leandros didn't notify a Company Chaplain or Liberian, so he violated the Codex Astartes

[Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP]

At least a handful should have been on the Strike Cruiser at all times. Since Titus was demoted Leandros will get a much worse punishment. So in SM2 he should be busted all the way back to the reserves or Scout company or discharged and forced to work as a Blackshield.

[Gilmore]

Ok.

[R.A.T. Army *MST3K*]

It would be interesting if they used him in the next game. He could have gotten transferred somewhere, not really as a punishment. Maybe he has a promotion? Or at least a lateral move.

Wouldn't that be interesting if the Inquisition reappears and he's part of it.

[Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP]

Originally posted by R.A.T. Army *MST3K*:

It would be interesting if they used him in the next game. He could have gotten transferred somewhere, not really as a punishment. Maybe he has a promotion? Or at least a lateral move.

Wouldn't that be interesting if the Inquisition reappears and he's part of it.

Violating protocol doesn't get you promoted by Space Marines, or an IRL military. Said IRL force would have dragged Leandros to a court martial in cuffs.

The only way he can appear as part of the Inquisition is as a Black Shield i.e. kicked out the chapter or sent on a one man Penitent Crusade.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valvatorez: David Cage is a hack:

Originally posted by R.A.T. Army *MST3K*:

It would be interesting if they used him in the next game. He could have gotten transferred somewhere, not really as a punishment. Maybe he has a promotion? Or at least a lateral move.

Wouldn't that be interesting if the Inquisition reappears and he's part of it.

Violating protocol doesn't get you promoted by Space Marines, or an IRL military. Said IRL force would have dragged Leandros to a court martial in cuffs.

The only way he can appear as part of the Inquisition is as a Black Shield i.e. kicked out the chapter or sent on a one man Penitent Crusade.

Applying IRL logic to a universe where demons are a physical threat and humans can be augmented with MULTIPLE ORGANS and still be alive without their bodies rejecting them! Leandros went directly to the Inquisition because of how blindly EVERYONE in the chapter was just following Titus's orders, such fears are something that can happen when dealing with Chaos, that your captain who has had direct exposure to the warp and come out unscathed MULTIPLE TIMES is going to raise some alarms to some people in the chapter that the captain was tainted long before they were in the position of command their in now, this game is pretty much considered canon as well to the Dawn of War games due to it featuring the Blood Ravens since this game was released after the ending of DoW2 Retribution which had you fighting a corrupted CHAPTER MASTER! So Leandros fears were genuine because other chapters have ended up having tainted members in the highest positions within the chapter, contacting the Inquisition which can do a more thorough investigation is likely because of the Inquisition having to investigate the Blood Raven's Chapter Master Kyras for similar charges of chaos taint.

[Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Valvatorez: David Cage is a hack:

Violating protocol doesn't get you promoted by Space Marines, or an IRL military. Said IRL force would have dragged Leandros to a court martial in cuffs.

The only way he can appear as part of the Inquisition is as a Black Shield i.e. kicked out the chapter or sent on a one man Penitent Crusade.

Applying IRL logic to a universe where demons are a physical threat and humans can be augmented with MULTIPLE ORGANS and still be alive without their bodies rejecting them! Leandros went directly to the Inquisition because of how blindly EVERYONE in the chapter was just following Titus's orders, such fears are something that can happen when dealing with Chaos, that your captain who has had direct exposure to the warp and come out unscathed MULTIPLE TIMES is going to raise some alarms to some people in the chapter that the captain was tainted long before they were in the position of command their in now, this game is pretty much considered canon as well to the Dawn of War games due to it featuring the Blood Ravens since this game was released after the ending of DoW2 Retribution which had you fighting a corrupted CHAPTER MASTER! So Leandros fears were genuine because other chapters have ended up having tainted members in the highest positions within the chapter, contacting the Inquisition which can do a more thorough investigation is likely because of the Inquisition having to investigate the Blood Raven's Chapter Master Kyras for similar charges of chaos taint.

Except you can. Going to the Inquisition is like going to the local PD instead of telling the nearest JAG or NCIS officer(i.e. the Chaplain whose job is to look out for heretrics or xeno-sympathizer ). You don't get awarded by any military force for a false report about a superior officer.
If the game was about Imperial Guardsmen instead of Ultramarines, the standard reaction to a poorly thought thought accusation of heresy about your superior officer would ended with "blamming" Leandros.
Thrax acted as if he was unconvinced about Titus being a heretic at the end. Which means he would have allowed the chapter to handle punishments after clearing Titus of heresy. Hence the demotion to demotion in Space Marine 2.

The Blood Ravens civil war are massive case of character/plot induced stupidity in order to stretch out the arc to four whole games.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valvatorez: David Cage is a hack:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Applying IRL logic to a universe where demons are a physical threat and humans can be augmented with MULTIPLE ORGANS and still be alive without their bodies rejecting them! Leandros went directly to the Inquisition because of how blindly EVERYONE in the chapter was just following Titus's orders, such fears are something that can happen when dealing with Chaos, that your captain who has had direct exposure to the warp and come out unscathed MULTIPLE TIMES is going to raise some alarms to some people in the chapter that the captain was tainted long before they were in the position of command their in now, this game is pretty much considered canon as well to the Dawn of War games due to it featuring the Blood Ravens since this game was released after the ending of DoW2 Retribution which had you fighting a corrupted CHAPTER MASTER! So Leandros fears were genuine because other chapters have ended up having tainted members in the highest positions within the chapter, contacting the Inquisition which can do a more thorough investigation is likely because of the Inquisition having to investigate the Blood Raven's Chapter Master Kyras for similar charges of chaos taint.

Except you can. Going to the Inquisition is like going to the local PD instead of telling the nearest JAG or NCIS officer(i.e. the Chaplain whose job is to look out for heretrics or xeno-sympathizer ).

And how do you know that the Chaplain wasn't tainted? Again I have to bring up Kyras who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corrupted an entire chapter's Honor Guard minus one person but that person still followed their orders without a second thought out of blind ignorant loyalty, if a Chapter Master can corrupt a chapter's entire branch of Honor Guard, other positions can be corrupted just as easily, heck one of the endings for Chaos Rising as your Force Commander character who's in a position of power and if they along with the rest of their other captains under his command are corrupted THEY ALONG WITH THE SHIP ALL FLEE TO THE EYE OF TERROR. Oh and that ship, would have had Chaplains, would have had Librarians, etc all onboard, all CORRUPTED by ONE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PERSON!

[Urizen]

I thought Titus was demoted to Lt because he crossed the rubicon primaris.

[Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Valvatorez: David Cage is a hack:

Except you can. Going to the Inquisition is like going to the local PD instead of telling the nearest JAG or NCIS officer(i.e. the Chaplain whose job is to look out for heretrics or xeno-sympathizer ).

And how do you know that the Chaplain wasn't tainted? Again I have to bring up Kyras who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corrupted an entire chapter's Honor Guard minus one person but that person still followed their orders without a second thought out of blind ignorant loyalty, if a Chapter Master can corrupt a chapter's entire branch of Honor Guard, other positions can be corrupted just as easily, heck one of the endings for Chaos Rising as your Force Commander character who's in a position of power and if they along with the rest of their other captains under his command are corrupted THEY ALONG WITH THE SHIP ALL FLEE TO THE EYE OF TERROR. Oh and that ship, would have had Chaplains, would have had Librarians, etc all onboard, all CORRUPTED by ONE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PERSON!

Dawn of War had a the crappist story arc of any Warhammer property. The entire thing is written by no talent hacks with a 12 year old's understanding of 40k. So your argument is stupid and irreverent. You casuals don't know anything about Warhammer beyond the vastly overrated DoW.

Your fanfic of a corrupted Chaplains & Librarians is nonsense because they weren't seen on screen. What we have seen is the Ultramarines punishing Ventris for working along side the Inquisition instead of leading his men.

[Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP]

Originally posted by Urizen:

I thought Titus was demoted to Lt because he crossed the rubicon primaris.

Lieutenants are not exclusive to Primaris Marines. Somebody must have told the writers of SM2 about the two captain plot hole in this game. Hence the changes.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Valvatorez: Sardine vampire guy:

Originally posted by R.A.T. Army *MST3K*:

It would be interesting if they used him in the next game. He could have gotten transferred somewhere, not really as a punishment. Maybe he has a promotion? Or at least a lateral move.

Wouldn't that be interesting if the Inquisition reappears and he's part of it.

Violating protocol doesn't get you promoted by Space Marines, or an IRL military. Said IRL force would have dragged Leandros to a court martial in cuffs.

The only way he can appear as part of the Inquisition is as a Black Shield i.e. kicked out the chapter or sent on a one man Penitent Crusade.

Wrong, OP. In the lore, there's historical precedent for a member of one chapter becoming a member of another chapter. That's how Garviel Loken and Nathanial Garro, Sons of Horus and Death Guard, respectively, became Grey Knights; they disobeyed orders from their Primarchs during the Virus Bombing of Istvann III in order to warn the Emperor of what Horus was doing. You're also forgetting that the Deathwatch, the Ordo Xenos' military wing, all come from different Space Marine chapters. Both Deathwatch and the Grey Knights operate under the Inquisition.

Besides, the Codex Astartes is nowhere near as solid as it seems. There's a lot of deviation from it, even among the Ultramarines successor chapters; the second book in the Ultramarines series has the Ultramarines fighting alongside one of their successor chapters, whose traditions are so far removed from the Codex that the protagonist originally thinks that they've gone heretic. He turns out to be wrong about that. Even among the original nine Loyalist chapters, there's deviation from it; neither the Space Wolves nor the Dark Angels follow it. Roboute Guilliman himself, after his revival, figured out that he had made it too strict and reformed it so that it would be looser.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valden21:

You're also forgetting that the Deathwatch, the Ordo Xenos' military wing, all come from different Space Marine chapters. Both Deathwatch and the Grey Knights operate under the Inquisition.

On that topic of the Deathwatch, they can also have marines fully painted and these marines are sworn to silence if allowed to be permitted into the Deathwatch.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valvatorez: Sardine vampire guy:

Your fanfic of a corrupted Chaplains & Librarians is nonsense because they weren't seen on screen. What we have seen is the Ultramarines punishing Ventris for working along side the Inquisition instead of leading his men.

How new to the universe are you? Librarians are if anything one of these most VULNERABLE to corruption since they work WITH THE VERY THING THAT CAN EXPOSE PEOPLE TO SUCH CORRUPTION!

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Valvatorez: Sardine vampire guy:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

And how do you know that the Chaplain wasn't tainted? Again I have to bring up Kyras who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ corrupted an entire chapter's Honor Guard minus one person but that person still followed their orders without a second thought out of blind ignorant loyalty, if a Chapter Master can corrupt a chapter's entire branch of Honor Guard, other positions can be corrupted just as easily, heck one of the endings for Chaos Rising as your Force Commander character who's in a position of power and if they along with the rest of their other captains under his command are corrupted THEY ALONG WITH THE SHIP ALL FLEE TO THE EYE OF TERROR. Oh and that ship, would have had Chaplains, would have had Librarians, etc all onboard, all CORRUPTED by ONE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PERSON!

Dawn of War had a the crappist story arc of any Warhammer property. The entire thing is written by no talent hacks with a 12 year old's understanding of 40k. So your argument is stupid and irreverent. You casuals don't know anything about Warhammer beyond the vastly overrated DoW.

Your fanfic of a corrupted Chaplains & Librarians is nonsense because they weren't seen on screen. What we have seen is the Ultramarines punishing Ventris for working along side the Inquisition instead of leading his men.

Again, no. The Horus Heresy demonstrated THOROUGHLY that it's possible for an entire chapter to be corrupted by just one guy. After Horus was corrupted by Erebus, he spread Chaos corruption to his own Space Marine Legion, and then to almost half of the other Legions before his motives were discovered. The guy succeeded in corrupting half the Imperial military forces by the time he started the Horus Heresy. This is GW-acknowledged 40K lore, and has been lore for a long time.

Even though Leandros did violate the Codex, he forgot one REALLY important thing, which is that Guilliman meant for the Codex to be for guidance and teaching. Sometimes, violating it is a good thing. Leandros' mistake was following the Codex in lockstep, instead of figuring out for himself how he should best follow it, as Guilliman had originally intended.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valden21:

This is GW-acknowledged 40K lore, and has been lore for a long time.

The only lore that GW hasn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up with when they started retconning ♥♥♥♥ in the lore.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Valden21:

The guy succeeded in corrupting half the Imperial military forces by the time he started the Horus Heresy.

Not to mention succeeded in establishing the rivalries between legions like the Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists which were already having feuds with each other as well as the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons when Horus tampered with the message the primarch of the Thousand Sons was about to send to Terra by literally having demons hijack it.