No luck finding AWP

[Kanarek]

Since the time I commented on this forum on how AWP is my favourite weapon, I cannot find it anymore in the coop campaigns. Is it just bad RNG or a mod issue (I only use Left 4 Bots 2, its Library, and Nav Fixes, ion's vocalizer is left turned off)?

[kurochama]

The spawn rate is probably lower than hunting rifle or military sniper. If you want to force it to spawn, you can try either one of these then:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3208656520
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3194444354

Use "Item Randomizer" if you want completely random results on item/ object conversions (& awp becomes one of random conversion results). & use "Item Conversion" if you want to set your own conversion results of specific items/ objects as you like (examples: convert adrenaline shot to awp, traffic cone to awp, plastic chairs to awp, etc).

[King Of Lolis]

No way you actually like that bad cs sniper
Like why

[Kanarek]

Originally posted by King Of Lolis:

No way you actually like that bad cs sniper
Like why

The answer is:
AWP suits my playstyle and has accuracy (quick aiming), damage, and mag size (plus the sound(s) of the weapon). Powerful weapon that requires skill and focus for effective use. Best coupled with a powerful melee weapon for versatility.

Extra (background) story below:
Recently, I've played FFA matches with bots in Xonotic (free arena shooter like Quake III Arena and first Unreal Tournament). I like the InstaGib mutator (InstaGib rifle). I've recently beaten highest difficulty bots on all maps in FFA, 3 bots in a match (InstaGib). AWP is similar to that weapon because it's one-shot kill and quick to aim. I don't use the military rifle so far because it's too slow to aim (I cannot be mobile enough for my preferences).
Recently, I had to resort to the scout rifle or the hunting rifle because of the lack of AWP. :(
I do use other guns though besides these precision weapons.
I admit I didn't expect to like AWP so much, I played CSS a lot (many years ago) but never grew attatched to this weapon in CS.
Generally, I like rifles in video games and AWP is really good as a rifle (in my view).

Originally posted by kurochama:

The spawn rate is probably lower than hunting rifle or military sniper. If you want to force it to spawn, you can try either one of these then:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3208656520
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3194444354

Use "Item Randomizer" if you want completely random results on item/ object conversions (& awp becomes one of random conversion results). & use "Item Conversion" if you want to set your own conversion results of specific items/ objects as you like (examples: convert adrenaline shot to awp, traffic cone to awp, plastic chairs to awp, etc).

I will give this a try and give you feedback once I finish a game or two. :)

[Kanarek]

I have a question regarding the item conversion/randomisation: is it possible to have a console command (or any other manual means) for item conversion or randomisation? I wouldn't like to exclude some items from the game in favour of AWP and I haven't yet fully understood all the possibilities of both mods (workshop items). Or maybe there is already a way to trigger item conversion in-game manually without automatic conversion, using one of the scripts?

Edit: I might decide to replace scout (and maybe the military rifle as well) with the script and have AWP instead. I don't intend to resort to literal cheats, but not having an opportunity to use your favourite weapon for so long can be frustrating.

[Mizu]

if you want to find the awp you must look for Tier 2 weapon spawns. Mostly check places that spawn snipers instead of all the tier 2's. For example in the barns in dark carnival, a sniper always spawns. In saferooms, there are always snipers "most of the time."

If you want to mod it I guess you should use the command (director_cs_weapon_spawn_chance) and set it towards 1, currently it's set to 0.25. So when a weapon spawns there is a 1/4 chance that it gets replaced with a counter strike weapon. Problem is there are already probabilities set for other weapons. So it is a lot rarer then what it seems.

I've set my command to around 0.67, increasing the odds to 3/4 chance for a weapon to be replaced by it's counterpart. Allowing you to still use other weapons and also the counter strike weapons here and there.

[Kanarek]

Originally posted by Mizu:

if you want to find the awp you must look for Tier 2 weapon spawns. Mostly check places that spawn snipers instead of all the tier 2's. For example in the barns in dark carnival, a sniper always spawns. In saferooms, there are always snipers "most of the time."

If you want to mod it I guess you should use the command (director_cs_weapon_spawn_chance) and set it towards 1, currently it's set to 0.25. So when a weapon spawns there is a 1/4 chance that it gets replaced with a counter strike weapon. Problem is there are already probabilities set for other weapons. So it is a lot rarer then what it seems.

I've set my command to around 0.67, increasing the odds to 3/4 chance for a weapon to be replaced by it's counterpart. Allowing you to still use other weapons and also the counter strike weapons here and there.

Thank you for reply!
I have just played with the item converter and I must say that AWP might have been a bit overrated in my previous opinion of the weapon.

Regarding the item converter: I think there is one mistake:
To properly convert an item to AWP, you need to type "weapon_sniper_awp_spawn" instead of "weapon_awp_spawn"
The instructions just say "awp" instead of "sniper_awp"
I couldn't run the script properly without fixing this myself.

[avayth]

you play controller?

[Kanarek]

Originally posted by avayth:

you play controller?

No. I use the default PC configuration of mouse and keyboard. Does a controller have aim assist in this game?

However, I have played on consoles, so I know how it is to play a shooter with a controller. Halo: Reach (Xbox 360) did this best, I think.

[Kanarek]

Anyway, I would like to thank kurochama for the Vscript. I realised that AWP wasn't that great as it had initially seemed.

[mar mar]

welcome to the real world where the majority is prioritized they made the AWP have a lower chance to spawn bc everyone collectively hated the CS snipers

[kurochama]

Originally posted by Kanarek:

Regarding the item converter: I think there is one mistake:
To properly convert an item to AWP, you need to type "weapon_sniper_awp_spawn" instead of "weapon_awp_spawn"
The instructions just say "awp" instead of "sniper_awp"
I couldn't run the script properly without fixing this myself.

The instructions there that only say "awp" refer to items to be converted in the front (items in the front should use item model names), while the conversion result (texts in the back of equal symbol) should always use "_spawn" like "weapon_sniper_awp_spawn". If you don't want to sacrifice any weapons to replace with awp, you can try this:

cabinet = weapon_sniper_awp_spawn

This will convert all types of cabinets including medical cabinets to store medkits & pills inside. But don't worry, as the pills & medkits inside the cabinet won't be converted & they'll still be there. Only the cabinets will be converted to awp. & as almost all maps have medical cabinet, if you convert it to awp, you can find awp in almost all maps.

Anyway, it's good to see that you could finally make use of the mod to spawn your favourite awp.

[Mizu]

Originally posted by marmarFishStickonator:

welcome to the real world where the majority is prioritized they made the AWP have a lower chance to spawn bc everyone collectively hated the CS snipers

believe it or not, the spawn chances are set low because these are meant to be a "reward" when you find them. Even though as you've said and others have said as well, the snipers suck, the ak is just a better sg and the silenced is better than the MP5. Meaning only the knife stands a good chance. Even then the knife isn't affected by the same spawning rules as the guns are.

[Zoey.]

Meanwhile the Counter-Strike community have the opposite opinions of sniper rifles

Bolt-action sniper: Good
Auto sniper: Terrible

[kurochama]

Originally posted by Zoey.:

Meanwhile the Counter-Strike community have the opposite opinions of sniper rifles

Bolt-action sniper: Good
Auto sniper: Terrible

CS applies more complicated recoil & bullet spread on weapons, so that makes sense. For example, unlike L4D2 that has close to 100% accuracy when aiming while standing still with auto sniper, on CS you can miss a lot if you spam shots too fast with auto sniper even while crouching, & you'll get killed by the enemy with rifles especially ak47 that only does 1-2 clicks on each shot from afar . Bolt action, especially awp has good accuracy & deadly damage there, as even shooting enemy's foot will make health go from 100 to below 20 (critical), & instant kill on body (one sniper that I hated when the enemy used it, as I was only a smg & rifle specialist back then ). But on L4D2, most special infected have more than 200 health while awp damage is just around 100, & at the same time auto snipers here have insane accuracy when standing still or crouching, so awp here is outclassed by auto snipers.

[JAiZ]

Originally posted by Mizu:

Originally posted by marmarFishStickonator:

welcome to the real world where the majority is prioritized they made the AWP have a lower chance to spawn bc everyone collectively hated the CS snipers

believe it or not, the spawn chances are set low because these are meant to be a "reward" when you find them.

Their spawn rates are lower because players felt like those weapons showed up more often than other guns, despite spawning at a normal rate.