Little to no teamwork in l4d2

[Th3 Num13er Z3R0]

VALVe always ment teamwork in l4d and l4d2 but now i see people going "#YOLO RAMBO" with no coop what so ever come on guys being a lone wolf can get you so far (and by so far i mean do little)

[Dharok]

It happens.
Low hour noobs run off from a veteran team and get incapped (be it, forward, backwards, or completely divergent)

Veterans run off from a low hour team and get incapped.

Each blame the other, rage-quit, or grief, and the cycle of L4D2 continues.

[Th3 Num13er Z3R0]

Originally posted by Dharok The Wretched:

It happens.
Low hour noobs run off from a veteran team and get incapped (be it, forward, backwards, or completely divergent)

Veterans run off from a low hour team and get incapped.

Each blame the other, rage-quit, or grief, and the cycle of L4D2 continues.

well if they keep getting incapped wouldnt it make sese to either...
A) Stick with the team
B) Stick with the team
C) Stick with the team or
D) STICK WITH THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TEAM

[Dr Chaos MK]

Did you know if you look up the definition of " team ", it technically means a group of at least 2. I say this as mostly a campaign player. In that in most public games, I convince 1 more person to rush with me. And we mostly 2 man the entire campaign. Does that mean I am not a team player. By definition, no.

Don't get me wrong. I try to work with all 3 other players. But if at any time arguements start, I just simple keep playing. Seems to be better that way. I know I started to enjoy L4D 2 by sticking to the basics. I used to strees out by working with EVERYONE. But that didn't work. The rage quitting & griefing / trolling only got worst. That's why I don't think too much about useless philosophies when playing public L4D 2 campaigns.

[Dharok]

Originally posted by A Dog Chasing Cars:

Originally posted by Dharok The Wretched:

It happens.
Low hour noobs run off from a veteran team and get incapped (be it, forward, backwards, or completely divergent)

Veterans run off from a low hour team and get incapped.

Each blame the other, rage-quit, or grief, and the cycle of L4D2 continues.

well if they keep getting incapped wouldnt it make sese to either...
A) Stick with the team
B) Stick with the team
C) Stick with the team or
D) STICK WITH THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TEAM

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.
People are just ignorant or enjoy being stupid and run off to do their own thing.

[zexx11]

stick w/ the way you play, eventually you meet team that works like clockwork.

[Yokazuna Ed]

Are we talking random groups you just join in with? In that case yeah, you got the trivial starting rapport any other stranger has and you're just kind of hoping for that unspoken going with the flow.

It's the same you'd see in some other team games but it's sting is more apparent in l4d because its only 4 players.

[That Goon Type Shit]

Alot of the games ive been having go aride have been due to no teamwork instead of just newbs that dont know how to play. New players are infuriating but at least they have an excuse to an extent. There's nothing worse than a player that DOES know how to play, but doesnt play together.

Everyones playing on different pages and self destruct the team. It's really frustrating

[bob]

Really it doesn't matter how far you can get by being Rambo, you're still leaving your team behind and being a douche. If you want to play solo, play solo. If you want to play 2 player, play 2 player. If you want to enter in a public game and ruin people's games, well, go for it, but don't pretend like you're Jesus of Left 4 Dead and merely surrounded by idiots.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by magnums are for noobs:

Really it doesn't matter how far you can get by being Rambo, you're still leaving your team behind and being a douche. If you want to play solo, play solo. If you want to play 2 player, play 2 player. If you want to enter in a public game and ruin people's games, well, go for it, but don't pretend like you're Jesus of Left 4 Dead and merely surrounded by idiots.

At the same time, rushing is a valid way to play. And people cannot seem to grasp that. And the people that do know about the benefits of rushing are probably 15% of the overall community. At the same time the remaining 85% either:
1) Cannot adapt & refuse to accept that there are other ways to play. In a arrogant manner for that matter.
2) Try to reason ( not good reasons either ) with points & philosophies that are useless.

[bob]

That's a pretty narcissistic and self-congratulatory view of your own playstyle, but okay. If you're doing something, anything, that can be at the expense of your teammates without their agreement, that's bad teamwork, regardless of what it is you're doing.

[Mascha]

Try to find someone who plays just like you. Every time those yolo-kids join our server and rush, we just let them die (we "veterans" stick together), no defib. I know how frustrating that is..but there's not much you can do about it. Just remember: there are still a lot of people who would go back just to save your a..s..s.

Btw, why always concentrate on bad things? I want to thank all the awesome people I met thanks to L4D2 !! Thank you for amazing and funny 300+ hours.
:>

[Th3 Num13er Z3R0]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by magnums are for noobs:

Really it doesn't matter how far you can get by being Rambo, you're still leaving your team behind and being a douche. If you want to play solo, play solo. If you want to play 2 player, play 2 player. If you want to enter in a public game and ruin people's games, well, go for it, but don't pretend like you're Jesus of Left 4 Dead and merely surrounded by idiots.

At the same time, rushing is a valid way to play. And people cannot seem to grasp that. And the people that do know about the benefits of rushing are probably 15% of the overall community. At the same time the remaining 85% either:
1) Cannot adapt & refuse to accept that there are other ways to play. In a arrogant manner for that matter.
2) Try to reason ( not good reasons either ) with points & philosophies that are useless.

i rush in sometimes but thats just when i want to finish that 1 campaign part ASAP i like being in a team it makes me feel like we accomplished somthing together

[Cougarific]

I've found this to be true:

Look out for your team, and your team will look out for you.

Be very obvious right from the start that you're playing with one goal only - to help your teammates survive. You can do this in a number of ways but the most effective I've found is to be the last one through every doorway.

Stop at every doorway, take a knee, turn around and cover until everybody else is through, then follow. Do this a few times and people will start to emulate your playstyle.

Team first, me last. It's contagious.

(coincidentally, this almost always results in having very high zombie kill counts at the end of the level, if that matters to you)

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

At the same time, rushing is a valid way to play.

It's only valid for the rushing player(s). Anyone tagging even slightly behind will have to deal with all the zombies stirred up by the rusher(s). For rushing to be effective, everyone has to be on board from the very start.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by magnums are for noobs:

That's a pretty narcissistic and self-congratulatory view of your own playstyle, but okay. If you're doing something, anything, that can be at the expense of your teammates without their agreement, that's bad teamwork, regardless of what it is you're doing.

Well I guess people are entitled to their opinions. Fact is, I have pulled through with 2 people getting it done. I try to work with other players. But if they get all mad at me, how am I to blame? If they will not listen and / or do something wrong, why should I be responsible for them?

[BloodyFetus]

lone wolf is ok up 2 advanced mode then its practicaly impossible, 4 me