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GamePlayer May 17, 2020 @ 9:27pm
Hard Rain Sucks
As someone whose played since 2010-2011, I find that Hard Rain is the worst campaign. I don't have much to say, but it's just so damn difficult. It's so difficult, that the last campaign isn't as hard as it (to be fair a lot of people would be playing the parish because of the demo, but that doesn't excuse it). Plus, godawful common infected spawns make you get gangraped by 1500 common infected every 15 seconds and you have to restart 5,081,987 times a map. Plus, tank spawns a lot with the witches. I'm done with this godforsaken excuse of a campaign. I'd rather play some 6th grader's map which is just him importing dust_2, adding a couple of saferoom doors, and calling it a campaign.
Last edited by GamePlayer; May 19, 2020 @ 3:58pm
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Helrika May 17, 2020 @ 9:39pm 
Imo its not that hard, you just gotta know where to move and holdout. id say ch2 is the most difficult part but keep a bile for the cornfields and then it should be gg. tho this all depends on how well you play. if you cant defend yourself well with commons and SI then yeah i can see you having a bad time. witches are easy to avoid and tanks can be beaten if you understanding your surroundings and use them.
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NemesisLeon44 May 17, 2020 @ 9:41pm 
I think the phrase you're looking for is "hard rain blows" because of all the intense wind and rain and such. Even with that pun improvement I still disagree. The reusing of the same 2 maps isn't as inspired as it seemed at first and the witches can be annoying but it's a fine campaign.

"the last campaign isn't as hard"? I'm glad left 4 dead treats all campaigns equally. A MASSIVE reason I love it so much is because it specifically avoids having a single, long story that forcibly enslaves the player to being on a certain level at a certain time. The freedom to choose your stage and level should be way more common than it is... should have been in the past too.

Everyone is playing dark carnival constantly, that's what a I see the most (not The Parish).

Hard Rain feels just the right amount of open and windy-mazelike that common infected can attack you from all angles... and the factory areas are really chaotically-shaped and open so the problem persists there so I can see that.

(are you posting this from a versus perspective or a high-difficulty campaign/realism perspective?)

(I've played since the day left 4 dead 1 released. Earlier if you count the various fps zombie mods that came before it.)
nMate May 17, 2020 @ 9:44pm 
lol you noob
Nuke 4 Duke May 17, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
stinky nooblet :(
JAiZ May 17, 2020 @ 10:03pm 
Hard rain is not really that difficult, the hardest part is probably map 2, which is managable as long as you don't play carelessly.

Originally posted by GamePlayer:
Plus, godawful common infected spawns make you get gangraped by 1500 common infected every 15 seconds and you have to restart 5,081,987 times a map.
If you struggle with common infected, simply get into a chokepoint to funnel the horde, or use one of the plethora of grenades the game gives you.

Originally posted by GamePlayer:
Plus, tank spawns a lot with the witches.
Tanks are rather easy to deal with, I haven't seen any tank spawns on hard rain that were unmanagable. Fall back while shooting it, and bait tank rocks into witches for free kills.
As for witches, just cr0wn them.

It seems you need to learn how to properly handle hordes and witches, since those seem to be your largest issues.
bob May 17, 2020 @ 10:38pm 
use a shotgun in campaign

if youre playing realism, get a military sniper with explosive ammo and learn to stun lock
Newt May 17, 2020 @ 10:53pm 
Hard rain omg how cool isnt that, just awsome! take a deep breath and try again dont push to hard, enjoy the game and you wil be the master of hard rain. :boomer::chainsaw::health::tank::witch:
FireWolfBoy May 17, 2020 @ 11:44pm 
just go katana-only :3 you’ll be fineee. :magatamanecklace:

—Kagura
Kisamefishman May 18, 2020 @ 12:44am 
hard rain is the only campiang I couldn't do in expert we always die
дeл May 18, 2020 @ 12:48am 
"why hard rain is so hard to speedrun" maybe some folks need to look that up on youtube too:BEjoyful:
Senpaija May 18, 2020 @ 12:48am 
Hard Rain is probably the second most difficult map, only beaten by Cold Stream. When I say that, I am talking about expert difficulty. Hard Rain is only hard because of part 2, probably because 10 witches, horrible tank spawns, water and a severe lack of vomitjar spawns all mixed together creatures a harsh challenge, that noobs usually can't get through.

Unless you play on expert difficulty, it's fairly easy tho, you just gotta crown the witches, go to a high area with no water during tank fight and save a bilejar for the event at the elevator. If you throw the bile down to the bottom of the elevator and hit common infected, the game will bug out and you won't have commons spawning until all commons with the purple outline have died.
JAiZ May 18, 2020 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Senpaija:
Hard Rain is probably the second most difficult map, only beaten by Cold Stream. When I say that, I am talking about expert difficulty. Hard Rain is only hard because of part 2, probably because 10 witches, horrible tank spawns, water and a severe lack of vomitjar spawns all mixed together creatures a harsh challenge, that noobs usually can't get through.

Unless you play on expert difficulty, it's fairly easy tho, you just gotta crown the witches, go to a high area with no water during tank fight and save a bilejar for the event at the elevator. If you throw the bile down to the bottom of the elevator and hit common infected, the game will bug out and you won't have commons spawning until all commons with the purple outline have died.
Cold stream is difficult?
Other than map 1, you have a guaranteed bile on every map, and up to 2 additional possible bile spawns on the finale.

If you have a team of 4 players, map 1 is pretty easy to do, you get a guaranteed hunting rifle, and it's easy to cover the person opening the bunker door.
Map 2 has a tank fight in a wide open area, it doesn't get easier than that. The event is also essentially a stroll in the park because of the guaranteed bile.
Map 3 is the same, the first event is very easily rushed, and the same goes for the junkyard.
The finale is harder, but one bile is enough to get past the first half and to the tank. then it's a matter of having 2 people clear the infected from behind (or use a pipe bomb/molotov at the top of the waterfall) and focusing on the tank, which can be baited around a large rock by one player forever. When the tank is dead, simply push up into the tunnel where you're given plenty of new grenades (either a bile, or multiple pipe bombs) which should get you to the escape with ease. If you were lucky to get additional biles earlier, then it's even easier.

If you don't use the biles, it becomes a lot harder, but the guaranteed grenade spawns pretty much nullify all the commons, so you only have to deal with 2 tanks and a few SI.

However, if you have bad teammates who shoot at commons while a bile is active, then yeah it's much harder, but assuming every person on the team has at least half of a functional brain, the events essentially get skipped.
Bignuka May 18, 2020 @ 4:04am 
Cold Stream is pretty hard on expert, even with biles the map spawns in so many hordes it nulifies them
uncleflagzz May 18, 2020 @ 6:17am 
It's an unique map and I like it, no matter how hard it is

And it even has "hard" in its name so we were warned
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fats May 18, 2020 @ 6:50am 
if you have been playing since 2010 and you struggle on hard rain im kinda concerned unless were talking expert here which is fair enough
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