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Bots are so dumb that they won't revive players in some spots
They shoot walls because of Witch instead of reviving.
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Witch Nov 8, 2022 @ 4:19am 
How tf am I at fault here
coNstantin Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:01am 
and? AI in games has always been trash

get some friends maybe
Fart Fartley Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:34am 
Don't rely on the bots, or other players for that matter. Play like you're on your own.

That's the true Path to Gitgudia around here. :steamhappy:
XanDer-XTX Nov 8, 2022 @ 9:32am 
Bots used to be OK but since the TLS update went live, they got worse somehow. For that reason, you don't have to count on them all the time considering the flaws they have.
JAiZ Nov 8, 2022 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by XanDer-XTX:
Bots used to be OK but since the TLS update went live, they got worse somehow. For that reason, you don't have to count on them all the time considering the flaws they have.
The bots have always been dumb, the update didn't change the AI in the slightest, all it did was improve navigation in specific areas.

Remember how they wouldn't path through the breakwall by the elevator in No Mercy 4? Yeah, TLS fixed that. Now the bots will actually revive you there.
King Of Lolis Nov 8, 2022 @ 10:21am 
yes yes teamate bots are always god awful in this game and dont help you at all
you get pinned by a hunter and they all shoot instead common zombies around you
dunno how some can enjoy playing solo like this
buggins Nov 8, 2022 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by coNstantin:
and? AI in games has always been trash

get some friends maybe
wdym AI you mean an a they forgot to add the intelligence
Troubled Nov 8, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by JAiZ:
The bots have always been dumb, the update didn't change the AI in the slightest, all it did was improve navigation in specific areas.

Remember how they wouldn't path through the breakwall by the elevator in No Mercy 4? Yeah, TLS fixed that. Now the bots will actually revive you there.

Unfortunately, this improvement has been offset by the bots having pathing issues in certain areas in the campaigns. Prior to the TLS update for example the bots had absolutely no issues ascending the ladders of the elevator shaft in the No Mercy finale. Now, however, they will get lost if the player gets too far ahead and will repeatedly climb then fall down until they are picked off by the infected.

That issue aside, and to address the OP, you have to play around the A.I's stupidity to get the most out of them: Stopping to allow them to catch up, keeping a good distance away from tanks/witches, and trying to position them so you get the most out of them during horde events.

There are mods that improve the A.I, but they will not make them smarter, just react faster to external stimuli and not be such hogs with medical items. There are a few that allow them to carry or even use throwables, or even give them commands, but again the A.I is not going to be smarter getting such mods.
Junior Nov 8, 2022 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by XanDer-XTX:
Bots used to be OK but since the TLS update went live, they got worse somehow. For that reason, you don't have to count on them all the time considering the flaws they have.
the ai got improved on the update
that's weird/bad ai pathing. nothing to do with their intelligence.
Bathtub Shitter Nov 8, 2022 @ 4:51pm 
name one game where bots are actually smart and i'll eat my own excrement
King Of Lolis Nov 8, 2022 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by DUNG DEFENDER:
name one game where bots are actually smart and i'll eat my own excrement
fallout new vegas
boone and ed literally carried me at start of the game with their god tier aiming
Bathtub Shitter Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by King Of Lolis:
Originally posted by DUNG DEFENDER:
name one game where bots are actually smart and i'll eat my own excrement
fallout new vegas
boone and ed literally carried me at start of the game with their god tier aiming

It's pretty easy to program a bot just to shoot and hit their target, but do they fallow you precisely, stay out of your line of sight, and dodge attacks? my memory is fuzzy with that game.
Last edited by Bathtub Shitter; Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:32pm
King Of Lolis Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by DUNG DEFENDER:
Originally posted by King Of Lolis:
fallout new vegas
boone and ed literally carried me at start of the game with their god tier aiming

It's pretty easy to program a bot just to shoot and hit their target, but do they fallow you precisely, stay out of your line of sight, and dodge attacks? my memory is fuzzy with that game.
follow you hard and sneak around with you
they dont go in way of my shooting that much,better than 4 tbh
Bathtub Shitter Nov 8, 2022 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by King Of Lolis:
Originally posted by DUNG DEFENDER:

It's pretty easy to program a bot just to shoot and hit their target, but do they fallow you precisely, stay out of your line of sight, and dodge attacks? my memory is fuzzy with that game.
follow you hard and sneak around with you
they dont go in way of my shooting that much,better than 4 tbh

Alright fair enough. I guess it's time then.
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Date Posted: Nov 8, 2022 @ 3:09am
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