Is this cheating?

[Blaquicat]

Hello!

My friend send me this video, i was wondering if is cheating, the video is too short, so hard to tell, besides i think its very weird his netgraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPsOddAJzxE&feature=youtu.be

[Jackpot]

He does have very snappy movement, locking onto stuff immediately, whiles it's hard to tell if this is because of since somewhat hard to see text as I'm on phone as of posting this.
I think in cases like this more videos should be provided to even decide if someone is a cheater, I know people call me a cheater when I either shoot through walls at them or 180 turn and shoot.

Tl;dr
Not too much evidence to go of, but it does appear they are snapping around which may mean cheats or a pro with a potato router.
I'll add more when I get onto my PC to look more at vid.

[Blaquicat]

Originally posted by xxxtinct:

netgraph will show 0 ping while recording demos tho

Didn't knew about that.. thanks..

Originally posted by xxxtinct:

very snappy and consistent headshots both close range and long range

Exactly what i thought.

[Evil]

Looks like it to me. Seems the only body shots this person gets are a side affect of something running in front of what he's locked on to.

[Jackpot]

Okay, so I did look at the video once more now that I am at my PC, all I can say is that I still stand by what I said, he has very snappy aim, AND EVEN stops shooting and then begins shooting at a common... AT THEIR HEAD.
Any non-headshots are due to a common running infront, I think they are cheating, poorly hidden one too due to the snappy nature.

I want to doubt it, but it seems likely, but yet more videos of the match would actually help more.

[Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ]

Could be a server side plugin or mod.

You can't really call someone a cheater just by a video.

[JAiZ]

Originally posted by ~Ren~:

Originally posted by Projekt34 Your God:

Maybe he is a cheater yea.But dont judge bcs of a 20 secs vid.

I'm not and would expect VAC to pick him up if he is cheating, a video can mislead players and some can see what they want to see, if he is cheating then I'd expect VAC to pick it up and ban.

I'm not on my pc, but if you slow it down and zoom in you should usually be able to tell easily.
A real player will always have overcompensation, while cheats will have the crosshair lock on pitch-perfectly to the target. It's humanly impossible to consistently be pixel-perfect with accuracy, especially on moving targets. there'll be slight overshooting, meaning the player has to compensate for that.

[Blaquicat]

Thanks guys, i will report back to my friend

[JAiZ]

Originally posted by ~Ren~:

Originally posted by JAiZ:

I'm not on my pc, but if you slow it down and zoom in you should usually be able to tell easily.
A real player will always have overcompensation, while cheats will have the crosshair lock on pitch-perfectly to the target. It's humanly impossible to consistently be pixel-perfect with accuracy, especially on moving targets. there'll be slight overshooting, meaning the player has to compensate for that.

It's just weird to be honest Jaiz, when you get on your PC again watch the video at 0.25 speed, pause it at 5 seconds, you can see 1 infected on the left side which has ran past the player from right to left but rather than hit that infected he switches to the top of the ramp, fires a few more rounds then reloads, that alone makes no sense to me because the immediate threat is that close one on the left side. That's something I find strange.

I'll take a close look tomorrow when I get up, cause it's 1am for me right now. I'll download the video and check each little detail 👍🏼

[AvovA]

Looks like aimbot to me.

[Evil]

Originally posted by Projekt34 Your God:

Your logic guys is "whoever is a prof shooter is hacking"
Its like when I got kicked from guys like you cuz I was shootin them through wallz and they said i had aimbot and wallhack..Jeez get gud then judge!!!

What are you even talking about, we're judging a video with extremely sketchy player movement, not you one shotting a hunter and getting cocky about it.

[JAiZ]

So, I slowed down the video and zoomed in a bit, unfortunately since it's in 360p it's really bad quality and hard to tell details, but to me it looks more like lag than anything else, as most of the snappy movements appear to go back to the exact same spot the crosshair was on 5-10 frames prior. Plus, the crosshair doesn't snap onto each infected's head, it seems somewhat random when it snaps.
It's really hard to tell because the video has such low quality that you can't make out any details at all.

You can see for yourself here, the video is slowed down by 0.300x and is zoomed in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTRcg2_N6dY&feature=youtu.be

[Gracey Face]

Not enough information to know if he is hacking or not. The crosshair is unnatural as all ♥♥♥♥, but there are a lot of ways that can happen and one thing to remember is what you are seeing spectating another player is absolutely not what they're seeing (even up to CI positions).

I as with a few of the people above though dont think he is hacking, because the crosshair doesnt snap to heads as you would expect, but of course that might have been the heads on his end.

Originally posted by ~Ren~:

It's just weird to be honest Jaiz, when you get on your PC again watch the video at 0.25 speed, pause it at 5 seconds, you can see 1 infected on the left side which has ran past the player from right to left but rather than hit that infected he switches to the top of the ramp, fires a few more rounds then reloads, that alone makes no sense to me because the immediate threat is that close one on the left side. That's something I find strange.

Nothing wierd about that. You can tell from the path the CI is taking that it is going for the fence to climb even if you didnt know Coach was boomed. Ignoring that common would be normal.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by ~Ren~:

Originally posted by Please don't kill me!!:

Nothing wierd about that. You can tell from the path the CI is taking that it is going for the fence to climb even if you didnt know Coach was boomed. Ignoring that common would be normal.

Watch the slow version, to me that is unnatural play, he kills a common next to the one that ran past but doesn't even target the one going for coach but switches to the top of the ramp, now skip to 18 seconds in, a common drops from above right in front of him yet is not targeted at all.

Because of where coach is, the only commons that are worth shooting are the ones climbing up directly beneath him. He should be able to handle the two other directions that commons can be coming from (walking along the fence) especially since commons climbing up the fence close to the person being spectated are more likely to just fall off the fence than to get to coach.

As to why he shot up the ramp instead of shooting one that got a hit on coach, who knows, nothing suspicious about it though, may have simply not realised coach wasn't going to shove it.

[supersand]

Originally posted by Projekt34 Your God:

Originally posted by The Pale One:

What are you even talking about, we're judging a video with extremely sketchy player movement, not you one shotting a hunter and getting cocky about it.

Well they said I had aimbot so its the same thing.The guy isnt hackin he is just a good shooter get over it.Peace brother

If you think someone with movement like that is just a good shot then I don't know what to tell you. Its very suspcious.

You're comparing apples to oranges

[Jackpot]

Originally posted by Projekt34 Your God:

Originally posted by vegetable:

If you think someone with movement like that is just a good shot then I don't know what to tell you. Its very suspcious.

You're comparing apples to oranges

M8 there is not aimbot wich you can select your target.If he had aimbot he would shot every zombie not only the ones who was climbing.

There actually have been aimbots where you can selectively target spercific targets. For obvious reasons I won't mention any aimbot names nor would I recommend/encouage anyone to look for them.
Although I've mostly seen them used in games similar to TF2 where it's a team versus a team with nothing like commons running about, usually you don't see them since they just hunt people to bully them and what not, of course most people wouldn't use that type of aimbot on L4D2 for obvious reasons. (Edit: To add onto the example of TF2, one could for example make it target a spercific class too. Like when playing as a heavy aimbot at all Spies and Scouts, but that's just an example based on TF2, that even still is redundent, hence why it lacks use.)
But then again, I still wouldn't see the point of using an aimbot like that, especially in L4D2.

Likewise I think we can all agree there isn't actually enough evidence to convict the user of hacking or not.