Traniee and Trainer modes

[FrostFire DireWolf]

Allow some one who at least prestige two characters to be a Trainer or Supervisor role.

Who's purpose is to help teach and run greenbeards through missions.

I just see so MANY threads in general upset at green beards costing them Haz 4 &5 victory. Most aren't even mad at the green beards but the situation they got put into.

I think having some type of badge next to your name or search function for a mission that has an active Trainer could go along way to ease the new miners in.

[GIRL]

What do you mean "allow" someone to be a trainer? You can train Greenbeards right now! It's not like there's a qualification form you have to fill out. Don't take the forum's sometimes-toxic attitude as a reference for how players act in-game.

Simply hit Esc, go to options, and rename your server so that Greenbeards know you're willing to teach them the ropes. There's already quite a few "Greenbeards welcome" servers out there that I see from time-to-time. No harm done in adding another one!

As for badges, don't worry about it. I have the feeling if they added badges for helping newbies, a lot of elitist jerks would just do the bare minimum to try and "teach" Greenbeards just to get it and show off. Might end up making it worse for the new players.

If you're just generally nice and helpful, people will start to recognize it. The playerbase is (relatively speaking) pretty modestly sized. I've bumped into a few of the same people multiple times, or made new friends after a series of good missions. That's a way better reward than some sticker on your avatar.

[FrostFire DireWolf]

A Cardboard Box původně napsal:

What do you mean "allow" someone to be a trainer? You can train Greenbeards right now! It's not like there's a qualification form you have to fill out. Don't take the forum's sometimes-toxic attitude as a reference for how players act in-game.

Simply hit Esc, go to options, and rename your server so that Greenbeards know you're willing to teach them the ropes. There's already quite a few "Greenbeards welcome" servers out there that I see from time-to-time. No harm done in adding another one!

As for badges, don't worry about it. I have the feeling if they added badges for helping newbies, a lot of elitist jerks would just do the bare minimum to try and "teach" Greenbeards just to get it and show off. Might end up making it worse for the new players.

If you're just generally nice and helpful, people will start to recognize it. The playerbase is (relatively speaking) pretty modestly sized. I've bumped into a few of the same people multiple times, or made new friends after a series of good missions. That's a way better reward than some sticker on your avatar.

I suppose that is a fair take. I just know that some other games use a mentor mode type deal and figured it could work here.

I wish I had time to teach the new miners at least the basics but real life work stops my dream.job of being a dwarf in space with big guns!

[GIRL]

FoxWolfFrostFire původně napsal:

I suppose that is a fair take. I just know that some other games use a mentor mode type deal and figured it could work here.

I wish I had time to teach the new miners at least the basics but real life work stops my dream.job of being a dwarf in space with big guns!

Just change your server title to something like "Greenbeard training - Learn the basics!" or something! Trust me. I'm sure new players will flock to it. I have a friend who's a greenbeard, when I'm not around they love going to those "Greenbeards welcome" servers, they're always really helpful and he's learned a lot in a short time.

[Vault Traveler]

This gave me god old Metal Gear Online vibes.

[RainingMetal]

A Cardboard Box původně napsal:

FoxWolfFrostFire původně napsal:

I suppose that is a fair take. I just know that some other games use a mentor mode type deal and figured it could work here.

I wish I had time to teach the new miners at least the basics but real life work stops my dream.job of being a dwarf in space with big guns!

Just change your server title to something like "Greenbeard training - Learn the basics!" or something! Trust me. I'm sure new players will flock to it. I have a friend who's a greenbeard, when I'm not around they love going to those "Greenbeards welcome" servers, they're always really helpful and he's learned a lot in a short time.

Sadly a lot of people don't read server titles. Hell, sometimes I jump the gun a bit foolishly and join because it has that biome/mission combination with room for the class whom I need to do it with.

What IS possible is for generous veterans to add greenbeards to their friends list and mentor them that way.

[Chibbity]

I forget the actual thread, but we had a related idea awhile back that I liked.

The ability for solo players to activate some sort of "distress beacon" which would highlight their server on the list in bold, or make it flash red or something, and allow others to join them. (Most likely this would only become available after Bosco has used up all his revives, or something along those lines; or possibly whenever you are dead and waiting for Bosco, you'd get a prompt offering you the distress beacon.)

The idea of opting into some sort of veteran "rescue" program was floated too, where you would be notified whenever one of these beacons went up and offered a pop up box to drop what you're doing and join on them.

[0ptimistPrime (the Gray)]

Back during Payday 2's heyday, there was a Steam Community group that provided unofficial support like that which has been requested here in the OP.

- Those who wanted to be mentors (or 'Tutors,' as they termed it) could join and ask for an Officer role in the group.
- Those who were looking for some helpful guidance could join and create a thread asking for people to play with, or even DM any Officers who were online with questions.

I don't expect an official system to ever be implemented into DRG, but there's nothing stopping interested parties from creating a similar Community Group on their own.
It'd be a sizable project to create, maintain, and promote though. It was tough starting out for the PD2 Tutor group, too, and PD2 had massive player numbers at the time.

But where there's a will, there's a way

[Deadweight]

Chibbity původně napsal:

I forget the actual thread, but we had a related idea awhile back that I liked.

The ability for solo players to activate some sort of "distress beacon" which would highlight their server on the list in bold, or make it flash red or something, and allow others to join them. (Most likely this would only become available after Bosco has used up all his revives, or something along those lines; or possibly whenever you are dead and waiting for Bosco, you'd get a prompt offering you the distress beacon.)

The idea of opting into some sort of veteran "rescue" program was floated too, where you would be notified whenever one of these beacons went up and offered a pop up box to drop what you're doing and join on them.

That sounds pretty neat

[GIRL]

Chibbity původně napsal:

I forget the actual thread, but we had a related idea awhile back that I liked.

The ability for solo players to activate some sort of "distress beacon" which would highlight their server on the list in bold, or make it flash red or something, and allow others to join them. (Most likely this would only become available after Bosco has used up all his revives, or something along those lines; or possibly whenever you are dead and waiting for Bosco, you'd get a prompt offering you the distress beacon.)

The idea of opting into some sort of veteran "rescue" program was floated too, where you would be notified whenever one of these beacons went up and offered a pop up box to drop what you're doing and join on them.

I like that idea. Although I can already see the issues with trolls seeing the beacons and joining just to ruin their game even further. Perhaps why they never went forward with it?

[Vault Traveler]

There was never a they it was just a suggestion someone made and most people liked the idea.

Devs never had anything to do with the idea.

[Hotklou]

A Cardboard Box původně napsal:

Chibbity původně napsal:

I forget the actual thread, but we had a related idea awhile back that I liked.

The ability for solo players to activate some sort of "distress beacon" which would highlight their server on the list in bold, or make it flash red or something, and allow others to join them. (Most likely this would only become available after Bosco has used up all his revives, or something along those lines; or possibly whenever you are dead and waiting for Bosco, you'd get a prompt offering you the distress beacon.)

The idea of opting into some sort of veteran "rescue" program was floated too, where you would be notified whenever one of these beacons went up and offered a pop up box to drop what you're doing and join on them.

I like that idea. Although I can already see the issues with trolls seeing the beacons and joining just to ruin their game even further. Perhaps why they never went forward with it?

Well... if you're using the distress beacon then the sh!t has probably already hit the fan, so what more could you lose in such a scenario if a troll does join?

[Hotklou]

Chibbity původně napsal:

I forget the actual thread, but we had a related idea awhile back that I liked.

The ability for solo players to activate some sort of "distress beacon" which would highlight their server on the list in bold, or make it flash red or something, and allow others to join them. (Most likely this would only become available after Bosco has used up all his revives, or something along those lines; or possibly whenever you are dead and waiting for Bosco, you'd get a prompt offering you the distress beacon.)

The idea of opting into some sort of veteran "rescue" program was floated too, where you would be notified whenever one of these beacons went up and offered a pop up box to drop what you're doing and join on them.

I love the sound of that!

[kestrel]

you can already do this. on a few occasions ive dropped into low-haz games with new players to teach them some stuff - because while greenbeards have no place in high haz games, i dont mind sharing some knowledge with the fresh meat in an environment they can perform in

that said, i dont want a system like the coaching in tf2 to be added, because its a pointless waste of time and essentially just babysitting