Hiveguard failed to spawn Sentinels and remained in invincible state

[Mister Ether]

I was playing an Extermination mission a couple nights ago. Three Dreadnought eggs, normal mission, no modifiers, all fought separately. The first dread was a Hiveguard, the second was an Original Recipe, and the third was another Hiveguard. The first two were fine, but while we were fighting the third Hiveguard part of its combat cycle glitched.

The normal Hiveguard pattern is 1) Spawn Sentinels, 2) Spawn armor weakpoints, turn the three armor indicators from grey to red 3) When all three armor indicators are gone, drop invincibility and turn health bar red 4) take X damage or Y time goes by, enter restore cycle 5) Restore invincibility, turn health bar grey, 6) Recreate grey armor indicators, 7) Spawn Sentinels.

When we'd gotten the Hiveguard down to about 1/4 or 1/5 health, it performed step 5 as shown above, but failed to take step 6. We had a Hiveguard with a grey health bar, no armor indicators, and no Sentinels spawned, so the thing was completely impossible to beat. We were using satchel charges and nukes, so it's possible it got knocked further down in health than would normally be expected when cycling out of the vulnerable state.

[Chibbity]

Are you sure the Hiveguard didn't spawn nearby in another cave?

As I understand it they can spawn in a spherical radius from him, ignoring walls; it's possible they just couldn't reach to you due a dirt wall or something.

[Mister Ether]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Are you sure the Hiveguard didn't spawn nearby in another cave?

Yeah, we searched the entire cave twice with him chasing us, drilled into the ceiling, the whole shebang. Around that point I noticed his armor indicators hadn't reappeared even though he'd re-entered the invincibility cycle. Normally when he goes invincible he should have three small grey bars above his grey health bar.

[Mister Ether]

Oh, apparently I had a screenshot from the event. Uploaded, made it public: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2523061327

... weird. I could have sworn it had less health than that.

[Chibbity]

Hmm...very odd, hopefully it get's looked into.

[HJ]

encountered same issue, used nuke gl on it (fatboy overclock), since nuke pretty much destroys all armor in one go i assume there's a tiny window where hiveguard goes invincible but can still be damaged which leads to it being invincible yet lack of armor breaks the AI and it can't do anything except wander around and attack you.

sentries and sticky bombs also ignore her completely

[Bong Water]

I'm doing a regular deep dive right now and I've run into this bug.... looks like im going to have to quit out. HUGE bummer.

[Vault Traveler]

Originally posted by Bong Water:

I'm doing a regular deep dive right now and I've run into this bug.... looks like im going to have to quit out. HUGE bummer.

For me it helped to get really close to the hiveguard.

[yasima630323]

I also encountered the same bug.
In stage 2 of Deep Dive, the hive guard did not call out any sentinels.
I thought they might be somewhere in the cave, so I searched everywhere, but I couldn't find a single sentinel.
Therefore, the Hive Guard remained invincible, and I was unable to clear the stage.
Please give me back my hour.

[Mister Ether]

That's brutal. Unfortunately (and fortunately) it's only happened to me one time ever and that was when I created this thread. If there is a plus side, it's that this a very rare bug. Do either of you guys who suffered it recently recall what happened leading up to the problem?

Like HJ I was using the Fatboy. Besides the details in my original post, I remember the bug happened after blasting the Hiveguard well-past one of the thirds of his health, beyond the point he's normally scripted to go invincible again on.

Hopefully the devs add something like a sanity check on a loop that fixes the spawning and reports the game state. It'd be a dirty hack but it would also only take a few minutes to code.

[Cress]

Had this happen to me once, we went on ignoring it and started killing other Dreads, still didn't fix it.

After about 10 mins, just exploring the caves randomly, it finally snapped the Hiveguard out of it, it made the noise to summon his minions, and we were able to complete the mission.

So yea, it got stuck in its invulnerability stage and was unable to trigger spawning until one of us entered some location on the map. Very odd behavior.

[Boss]

I fixed my encounter by making it attack, which was a melee attack so i suggest going up close and personal if this happens again.
Only happened once to me so far though, so idk if that's consistent.

[The Loan Ranger]

Originally posted by Boss:

so idk if that's consistent.

It's a known issue.

[Mister Ether]

I think Boss is uncertain the *fix* is consistent. If the bug ever happens to me I'll go wail on its face with my pickaxe until it takes a swing at me.

It kinda sounds like the bug got fixed for Cress by getting so far from the Hiveguard the game despawned and respawned its sentinels. I'll give that a try too if getting meleed fails; me and the guy I was in co-op with took turns keeping the Hiveguard busy while the other searched, so we never would have triggered that.

[Taien]

Just so everyone knows, my team jsut had this bug occur and we dragged the hiveguard to a flat area and it eventually spawned them; there does seem to be some kind of loop that will eventually attempt to spawn them again so be patient and don't drop the mission. It took something like 3-5 minutes, but maybe it could have been done sooner in a flatter area, idk.

[Mister Ether]

Originally posted by Taien:

Just so everyone knows, my team jsut had this bug occur and we dragged the hiveguard to a flat area and it eventually spawned them; there does seem to be some kind of loop that will eventually attempt to spawn them again so be patient and don't drop the mission. It took something like 3-5 minutes, but maybe it could have been done sooner in a flatter area, idk.

Thank you, that is good to know. I'll give it a try if the bug recurs for me.