Phasing/falling through objects: Drop pod, mining platform, ...

[ryanbantwins]

In some missions it seems like the game suddenly loses track of the physics of certain objects for the rest of the mission. Most notably:
-Suddenly falling through (the ramp of) the drop pod, and then just phasing/walking through it.
-Falling/phasing through the base platforms of liquid morkite missions or point extraction
-Phasing through Doretta (drilldozer)

Other smaller problems might also occur
-Having difficulties to get a prompt to use MULE or a resuply pod (or phasing through the resupply pod)
-Having enemies that just ignore ignore everything you shoot at them :)

The moment one of these things occur, it' basically over since you literally can't succesfully leave the mission (not even while hanging on a zipline in the pod). Which is of course pretty frustrating.

We originally thought it had something to do with the CPU of the host, but as of yesterday we've encountered this bug with all three of us being the host. FYI, it also happened once during a solo mission.

As anyone else encountered this problem, knows what causing it or even better knows how to solve it?

[Vault Traveler]

Probably a latency issue. The game runs p2p and lag can make Collision detection go bonkers.

[Waste_of_skin]

Yeah, it really sounds like lag, or some other connection issue. Of course that shouldn't be an issue when you're playing solo. When you say that "it also happened once during a solo mission", exactly which problem are you referring to, and did it happen with each of you (playing separate, solo, games) or just to one of you?

FWIW, I've been playing for 2 years and I can't remember if I've ever fallen through the drop pod ramp (it may have happened long, long ago), and I've never fallen through the floor on the minehead or refining platform, or had problems using the MULE or a resupply pod. Doretta is trickier, and there may be occasional issues when riding the dozer, but they're just momentary and I just shrug them off. I don't think I've ever had any problems when she was stationary.

This is not to say that there aren't problems, but the things that you described don't seem to be common issues (based on the posts here), and most of them really sound like lag/connection issues.

I've completed 2K+ missions and I had one time (maybe a year ago or more) when I fell through the drop pod floor. So, it has been known to happen, but I've only seen it once, and I assume that that was a lag/connection problem.

When I join a mission in progress, I do sometimes see a bug that's just sitting/hovering there. This is presumably out-of-date game info, showing me a bug that had already been killed. I shoot it (or at it) and it doesn't respond, and I move on, and the bug disappears shortly after I arrive. I have also seen a slightly different issue with menaces, in particular. I've had several times when I joined a mission and there was a menace, and I could shoot it and tag it with the laser, but I wasn't actually hurting it, and it didn't respond, attack or move, and no one else could see it. And those menaces can stay around for the rest of the mission (just sitting in the same spot, not doing anything). {shrug}

If you've mostly/always been playing co-op with one of you three hosting, you could all try joining games hosted by other people, and see if you have the same problems.

[ryanbantwins]

The one time it happened to me during a solo mission was on a liquid morkite mission. Halfway through the mission I suddenly fell through the platform and was unable to get on top again. Phasing through the ramps, and even jumping from a ledge onto the platform wasn't working, because I would just fall through it. After 10 to 15 minutes I just had to gave up because of this.
It only happened once in my (idk 20ish) sologames. After that I convinced the other two to buy the game and none of us really played a significant amount of sologames ever since.

In the 100h I played so far, it bugged out like this in 8 occasions or so. Last time we played it happened back to back, but one of the group was having issues (1 FPS for some reason) so it definitely could have been lag. But it's also weird, because she can't be the only source of the problem since it also happpened once while duoing with the other one (so without her).

I'm starting to think that I might be the problem somehow, since I've always been in those games. Guess I could try to join some games with other people online, and see whether or not it happens then as well. Might ruin a single mission, but I guess that's ok for science ... :)

[Waste_of_skin]

I don't know what would cause you to start falling through the platform partway through a solo mission. Maybe it was just a rare, random, bug (lucky you ).

[Jules]

It happens to us pretty much every game now. I've even got inside the drop pod with ziplines and the Scout's launcher but it doesn't recognise it. One time it did and the mission ended as if it was successful (even with victory pose and starting in private room rather than medbay) but still said mission failure as you clip out when the pod launches up.

Our pings all seemed fine, none higher than 60ms.

We'll try different hosts and see if that works, but if that doesn't fix it I'm losing desire to continue on.

[Waste_of_skin]

Originally posted by Jules:

It happens to us pretty much every game now. I've even got inside the drop pod with ziplines and the Scout's launcher but it doesn't recognise it.

That really sucks. Have you all tried having Steam verify the game files (just a standard thing to try when having problems with a game)?

Other than that, I have to assume that your systems and/or connections are somehow a factor. I've completed almost 3000 co-op missions and only fell through the pod floor once, and that was long ago.

FWIW, I think others have said that just getting inside the pod, without touching the floor (eg. using a zipline) didn't get around this problem. You probably have to make contact with the floor to trigger the pod launch.

Originally posted by Jules:

One time it did and the mission ended as if it was successful (even with victory pose and starting in private room rather than medbay) but still said mission failure as you clip out when the pod launches up.

Our pings all seemed fine, none higher than 60ms.

Getting a "victory pose" and loading in your room, but also getting the "mission failure" screen, sounds really odd. I have no explanation for that.

FWIW, you could have an OK ping, but still be losing data (packet loss). You all might want to try some Internet connection tests, if you haven't already.

[Vault Traveler]

Dunno here is definitely something strange, but people get lately lots of strange bugs I have never heard. (And remember there are no patches sonce weeks so nothing had changed)

I wouldn’t suprised if most of them are because of mods and cheats.

[P'tit Nico]

It happened to me once with a friend, and twice in solo games.
Once the bug starts, I just walk through all platforms, pipelines, resupply pods, etc. I also cannot interact with anything with E: cannot build or recharge turret, cannot resupply, etc. The only solution is to abandon the mission.

[argenex]

Happens to me all the time and has happened since the release of the game. I mentioned way back then and kinda no one cared.

Also happens if I'm hosting or not. Also always happens whenever 121812 bugs spawn at once.

[Mister Ether]

I had a similar issue, but it happened far less when a friend of mine hosted. It happened to me constantly in solo. As far as I can tell it had something to do with the available RAM on my video card. I switched from a card with 1GB of VRAM to 4GB and the problem vanished.

In any case, does this sound similar to your experience?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/discussions/2/1653297026046153894/