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Probably just drivers man. Windows also might be out of date. Hopefully, you are on a legit copy and not a pirated version.
Update all drivers.
Motherboard and GPU.
Don't forget the Bios update on the motherboard either.
It could also be the GPU fan isn't spinning up fast enough to keep the GPU at a stable temp. If it's getting to close to TJ max it will drop performance to lower wattage consumption. This leads to the chip cooling off and then returning to normal function until it hits TJ max again. Try using a program like MSI afterburner and set a custom fan curve to where at 55 degrees the GPU fan maxes out at 100%. You might just need to clean the GPU fans.
Update Windows... Completely. You should be on Windows 10 64 bit Version 1903. If not you might need some help updating as Windows has a real rough time updating properly from one version to the next but it is possible.
if Windows is completely up to date, that is Version 1903. Try this.
Type the following in the search box.
cmd -> Run the command prompt as admin by right clicking and running as admin -> Once in the Administrative prompt type the following...
sfc /scannow
Wait for it to scan and do it's thing.
If Windows is good you should not get an error message and you should see "No integrity violations." If you don't get that message you will need to run an additional command.
DISM /Online /Cleanup-image /RestoreHealth
Wait for it to complete and restart the computer.
If for whatever reason it fails then you will need to create a Windows ISO image on a USB and run that same command but have it pointing to a specific folder on the USB. We can cross that bridge when and if we come to it though.
Run another sfc /scannow to see if you have cleared the issues.
Update windows.
Mind you all of that really only works well on Windows 10 Machines. If you are on something else, the commands will still work but you have to do some extra tweaking to get them working properly. Ex. Windows 7 doesn't really support DISM straight away, you have to download a pack and add it in and even then it's very limited in scope compared to Windows 8 and 10.
You should be on Windows 10 as that is what Microsoft actually supports the most at this time. Windows 7 is on it's way out. Windows 8 is not really getting very much support anymore either. Microsoft really wants to get everyone on a single platform and build up from that.
If Windows is perfectly fine after all the checks I have described and everything is up to date... try reinstalling the game. You also might want to run a check disk on your hard drive to make sure there aren't any bad sectors. This is all assuming you are running the game off an traditional HDD drive and not an SSD. If it's on an SSD, don't run the check disk.
You should be just fine though and you should not be getting those big FPS changes.
This is what I am running...
Ryzen 7 1700X
GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GDDR6
16 GB of DDR4 @2400 14-14-14-34
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Version 1903
OS Build 18362.329
No issues for me.
My Wife has a similar setup but with a Ryzen 3 1200 and RX 580 8 GB. She doesn't have any issues running the game at max settings with 60+ fps.
You can collect a lot of this information via the following locations...
Start -> Settings ( Gear Icon ) -> Click the About Tab. You should see the information on the page. There is also another menu you can look at from there -> System Info ( top right of the window )
That can at least tell you what version of windows you are on in a timely manner as well as how much memory you have installed.
AMD drivers = https://www.amd.com/en/support
If you are using a Ryzen 5 you are on an AM4 motherboard. Make sure you have the latest chipset drivers. Also, visit your motherboard manufacter's website and update your BIOS to the latest revision.
Nvidia Drivers = https://www.geforce.com/drivers
Hope this gives you a decent place to start troubleshooting.
If you need anymore help let me know. I will be glad to help you out.
To really really help you though we need detail about your setup. As much as you can give us.
CPU
Memory
Windows version
What OS Build you are on
Graphics card
Graphics card driver in use, what version.
What motherboard are you on?
What Bios are you using?
What power supply do you have?
What driver settings you have set?
I mean to really help you kinda have to give us the whole picture and not just GTX 1080 + Ryzen 5. We can try but it's very difficult as their is far to much variation from build to build.
Usually thought, it's just out of date drivers and the like so my guide will hopefully get you to where you want to be. If not we can try troubleshooting further. Let me know.
Ryzen 5 1600X
GTX 1080
16 GB of DDR4
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Version 1903
OS Build 18362.329
What I tried this far:
Update all drivers
Update windows
DISM /Online /Cleanup-image /RestoreHealth command, Scan is all good now
Ran check disk on my HDD and SSD, everything's good
Tried re0installing the game on both SSD and HDD, same results
Tried various fix in game, like enabling/disabling v-sync and the audio thingy
Issue is still not solved.
Additionnal infos:
Mobo: GA-AB350-Gaming 3
Graphic card driver: 25.21.14.1735
Bios version: F6
PSU: CORSAIR CX-M Series CX450M
What's the speed and timings of the RAM?
Is that RAM kit you are using official supported by your motherboard's QVL listing?
Do you have everything installed in the proper memory slots as instructed in your motherboard's manual?
May I also ask what resolution and game settings you are using to run the game?
What type of monitor are you using?
Who makes the monitor?
What model?
What input on the monitor is plugged into the graphics card?
Can you give us the exact model graphics card?
What port are you connecting the monitor two?
What type of cable are you using to connect up the monitor and graphics card? Who makes the cable?
Is this the only game exhibiting issues?
Did you run an sfc /scannow check form an administrator level command prompt prior to running your DISM /Online check?
You didn't need to run a check disk on the SSD and I recommended against it. Lol.
What about Temps?
Is your graphics card exceeding 62 degrees?
What temp is your CPU at when you see the issues?
How many devices do you have plugged up inside your PC?
CPU, Motherboard, RAM, Graphics card... I know those.
How many hard drives do you have installed?
450W is very low wattage. The minimum recommended for a GTX 1080 is 500w.
It's only 50w you might say?
50w is 50w. Yes I am sure it can run a GTX 1080 but, you are also pushing the PSU pretty hard and if the PSU is getting dirty... It will heat up more than normal. You will end up with worse efficiency on the power delivery.
If you only have a very basic setup...
That is, motherboard, CPU, RAM, and the GTX 1080 with 1 hard drive... Then sure you might be able to get away with the 450w PSU without any problems. If you connect up a bunch of fans, Led lights, extra drives... You can easily exceed what the PSU can deliver consistently. A lot also depends on how clean and consistent the wall outlet is feeding the PSU. Are you overclocking?
Are you overclocking both the CPU and the graphics card? If so, don't. Try only overclocking one. If you are overclocking one... Try running everything at stock speeds to see if that clears up the issue.
Now I am not saying the PSU is your problem. But, it is something to consider as you are running out of spec. It might be getting really dirty, it might not be getting enough air, etc. A whole host of factors can play into it.
More than likely though, your issues are temperature related. At least based on what you've stated so far.
If everything is indeed up to date, Windows, Drivers, Bios, etc... All checks have passed... You don't have some ridiculous anti-virus software installed like Avast, McAfee, Norton, etc that could also be eating up system resources... Your graphics card temps are well below 60 at all times... Then maybe it's just an issue with the Graphics card's GDDR Ram. Maybe you have a module that is not working as intended any longer due to a power surge or static damage finally taking it's toll from improper handling of the graphics card during installation. You would need to try an alternate graphics card to check if you still have the issues to rule that out, again only if everything else checks out before this.. If it is indeed the RAM modules on the graphics card you can just send it in to the manufacturer to have it replaced. Quite easy, just call the company who makes your graphics card and go through the RMA process. It might take a week but you should be fine afterward.
I have a friend who bought a brand new ASUS graphics card recently (RX 570). Brand new... Fresh out of the box, we cut the factory seal on the box... It worked perfectly... Until...It died on him within a few weeks of normal use. Turns out there was a manufacturing defect on his batch. It is now going back to ASUS for repair/swap. Hardware failures happen, not always but, they do happen. You might just have a problem with the graphics card itself that is causing the issue.
Also, I do not recommend running with an uncapped frame rate. Lock it someplace. This improves consistency in frame time delivery and helps the CPU stay free for other tasks or game logic tasks that might come up. 60, 75, 120, 144. Running with vsync can help as it locks the frame rate to your monitors refresh rate. As long as you have a frame rate above the refresh rate you won't experience any lag in the controls.
My advice is play the game while MSI afterburner is running.
Monitor the following and benchmark them to a text file...
CPU Usage
GPU Usage
CPU Temp
GPU Temp
RAM Usage
Memory Usage
Have a pen an paper with you and a timer.
When you start the benchmark, start your timer.
Then play the game. If you experience a slow down of some sort in game, mark the time on the timer. Then quit the game and check the benchmark results for that time to see if there were massive spikes is usage, temp, etc.
Anyway just throwing ideas out there for you to check on.
Let us know what you find.
Yes
Yes
Usually ultra setting for everything, but I tried every other setting and the issue is always there
My monitor is a ViewSonic XG2530 25" 240Hz 1ms
Its plugged with an standard display port
Graphic card is: ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 8GB 11Gbps
I Don't know who made my display port cable
It is the only game that have this issue yes. And has I said the game worked fine until like 1-2 months ago.
The commands were run in administrator yes
GPU temp is max 58C
CPU is max 30C
I have 2 drives installed, an HDD and an SSD, otherwise its a basic setup
I am not overclocking anything
Also everything is cleaned pretty often, I cleaned yesteday before posting here...and theres a lot of air and a few fans in there.
I will run benchmarks tonight to see what I can find
Also, I don't the problem is in the materials, since has I said the problem is recent and its only doing that in DRG. Everything else is running smooth. And the issue is not even in game when there is more load, its has soon has I get into the game lobby, even in singleplayer.
(Thx for the help btw)
That's an unusual RAM Speed, 2100? Do you mean 2133? 2133 MHz is a normal speed, even if it's slow. If you aren't playing at 1080p and are running at a higher resolution, ex 1440p /4k, you really need to up the speed on the RAM, 2933 MHz minimum. Have you tried enabling the XMP profile for the memory in the motherboard BIOS? You might have to restart the PC a couple of times but modern motherboards are pretty good at tweaking small settings to find stability after a couple of resets at the desired speed. Usually there are two settings for the XMP, make sure you pick the correct one that delivers performance rather than power savings one.
Can you provide us a link to this display port cable? Also, what resolution are you running at? A 240 Hz monitor, hopefully you are using very low resolutions to keep the frame rate extremely high.
Ok, yeah that isn't bad and you should be just fine with the 450w, even if it's out of spec for your build.
Please do. Knowing exactly when these issues occur can really help the devs isolate where there might be an issue in their code base, if there is one. Ex. It only happens when a drill is bringing in supplies or when a certain type of enemy spawns. Let us know.
Oh and add the following metrics to your benchmark run...
Framerate
Minimum Framerate
Maximum Framerate
Frametime
Avg Framerate
Framerate 1.0 % Low
Framerate 0.1% Low
...on top of everything else I had mentioned in my previous post to you. You can set all of that up in MSI afterburner. Get into the game and then press the hotkeys to activate the benchmark. Run through a mission and at the end when you are leaving press the hotkey again to shut off the benchmark run and force the results to a text file in a location of your choosing.
Based on everything you've stated, it doesn't sound like there are any real problems with your hardware or software. I would fix your RAM speed asap though. Especially, if you are playing at resolutions beyond 1080p. However, based on the monitor you are using, I wouldn't recommend playing at anything beyond 1080p. Actually, on a 240 Hz monitor, I would run at 720p to keep the framerate as insanely high as possible as well as keep the frame times insanely low and consistent. You also shouldn't be running Ultra settings on a 240 Hz Monitor, in my opinion. You want everything set to low to max out the frame rate and frame time consistency. I would also recommend getting a 600w PSU but, it's not really a requirement. It's just something I recommend so you are well within spec.
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Also, try this man...
Let me know if this does the trick...
I am also assuming you have only a single display here...
Start -> Settings ( Gear Icon ) -> Display -> Advanced Display Settings -> Display Adapter Properties for Display 1 -> A properties window will show up -> Switch to the Monitor tab on that pop up window -> Screen Refresh Rate, set it to 60 Hz and try playing the game to see if you run into any issues. Also, make sure you vsync. If it works and tops the random spikes then try going up to the next available refresh rate. Play the game. Did you notice any issues? Record your findings, wash rinse repeat until you hit 240 Hz. It might just be the game has issues at higher refresh rates for whatever reason.
I am playing on a 60 Hz display and I have no issues.
Let me know.
How did you perform the fresh install of Windows 10?
Microsoft's USB Media Creation Tool for Windows 10?
What USB drive did you use?
Are you aware that sometimes Microsoft has a bad Windows 10 Image on their servers and that the Media Creation tool will still use said bad image causing a small level of corruption to your install?
Have you verified that your image is fine? Administrator Command Prompt, sfc /scannow
sfc = System File Check = Checks the Windows folder and compares it to a known image of what it should look like. Any irregularities will be marked and reported by this and in some cases it can easily repair itself. If for whatever reason it can't you can always DISM repair. DISM can repair from a locally stored comparison image, assuming it's there like it's suppose to be, and access Windows Update via online to download the missing parts. You can also point it to a USB ISO of the OS and it can do the repair from that, assuming you have issues with the /online DISM repair.
DISM = Microsoft's Deployment Image Servicing and Management.
What version of Windows are you on now?
Do you have all of the Windows Updates?
What is your OS Build #?
What type of hardware are you using?
What driver versions are you using for your hardware?
Do you have an anti-virus installed?
Have you run a Steam Game Integrity Check?
What type of monitor are you using, model and make?
What type of cable are you using to connect up said monitor?
In order to get any real help or even provide devs with usable feedback, you have to answer all those questions, and probably a few more that I might have missed.
A vague , it doesn't work for me, tells them nothing. They won't be able to explain why it doesn't work or even know where to begin when attempting track down where the problems might be, if any.
Let me know.
Very good.
Are you overclocking? Why are you running RAM at 1333 MHz? Any particular reason?
Have you uninstalled, then re-installed the drivers from Nvidia's website?
What about Microsoft's WQHL drivers? Have you tried playing the game using those?
Any differences?
What settings are you using when playing the game on your setup?
Full break down.
Resolution Screen Mode:
Exclusive Full Screen ( What you should be using )
Window Full Screen ( What you should avoid )
Windowed ( What you should also avoid )
VSync:
On or Off ( For the cleanest experience with the visual presentation, turn this on. As long as your FPS is consistently above 60 fps you won't experience any lag. Also, by limiting the FPS using vsync you free up CPU and GPU resources. Resources that just might help power through a heavy scene and keep the FPS above 60. vsync will help keep CPU and GPU usage down and free up resources for everything else your computer has going on. )
Max FPS:
30-244 ( Just leave the limiter off. Vsync will act as a limiter anyway and it will sync up better with your monitor's refresh. )
Overall Quality:
Custom
Ultra
High
Medium
Low
Resolution Scale:
0-100%
Texture Resolution:
Low
Medium
High
Ultra
Shadow Quality:
Low
Medium
High
Ultra
Anti-Aliasing:
Low
Medium
High
Ultra
Post Processing:
Low
Medium
High
Ultra
Effects:
Low
Medium
High
Ultra
Let us know in a reply.
Have you tweaked any of the Nvidia Control Panel settings? If so, which ones?
What do you have your Nvidia settings at?
Which anti-virus?
What version of said Anti-virus?
Some AV's can cause massive resource drains on the computer which could lead to poor game performance. You are also using an old FX CPU which, when coupled with a resource hungry AV, can lead to very poor performance.
If you did find issues, restart the PC a few times after the check that says they were repaired. Re-run the check, if it passes again, that is no violations found, you are all good. Now you should run an integrity check on your game files via the steam properties menu for the game, or just flat out re-install the game again now that Windows is repaired. Then try and see if you are still having issues.
This one?
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05078320
How can you install windows directly form their website?
Do you mean you used the Media Creation Tool to make your own USB to install Windows?
Please elaborate. Thanks.
Do you have MSI afterburner installed?
What were your temps, While playing the game?
Have you run benchmarks like I recommended to the previous person having issues?
If so, at what times during your run did you see any performance issues?
Let us know.
Now you did start and stop the benchmark while you were in game correct? Not before you started running the game or after you closed the game down?
What do your CPU and GPU usage look like?
Did the game pop up any errors?
Don't call the game stupid. It's a great game. No loot boxes. No Micro-Transactions. Free DLC. Developers who actually talk to the community, via their Discord. Fun Co-Op. Challenging. Lots of progression and customization for your characters. Randomly generated cave systems, great ones at that. Lots of cool enemies to kill. Lots of nice little hidden things in the DRG space station. Nice lighting effects. No Political Baggage.
DRG is a great game.
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This is what I am running...
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ Stock Speeds
MSI B450 Tomahawk Motherboard
MSI Ventus XS GTX 1660TI 6 GB GDDR6 @ Stock Speeds
Nvidia Driver Version 436.15 Game Ready Driver. (08/27/2019)
16 GB DDR4 @ 2400 MHz 14-14-14-34
Seasonic 550w PSU.
Windows 10 Home 64 bit
Version 1903
OS Build# 18362.329
Windows is installed on an NVME M.2 SSD.
ADATA XPG 8200 512 GB
Games are installed on a seperate HDD, including DRG.
Seagate Barracuda 5 TB.
I also have two extra SSDs for working with video files.
120 GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD
&
500 GB SanDisk Ultra Pro SSD
I am using a BenQ 60 Hz 1ms gtg Monitor with two HDMI ports.
I am connected to my graphics card via the HDMI port.
No aftermarket Anti-Virus installed. No need and counter productive for gaming scenarios.
My temps are well below 50 Degrees C at all times on both CPU and GPU.
I don't have any crazy taskbar programs loaded up at all times or even when Windows Boots. Just MSI Afterburner( every now and then), Logitech G Hub (For my Mouse) , Steam, and TS/Discord, which ever one I am using at the time. That's it.
I run my game at Ultra Settings 1080p.
Vsync enabled.
I have zero issues. None, what so ever.
Neither do any of my buddies. Whom I play tons of matches with daily.
I find it highly unlikely it's the game that is the issue but, hey... maybe.
Average framerate : 114.1 FPS
Minimum framerate : 4.8 FPS
Maximum framerate : 128.8 FPS
1% low framerate : 9.7 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 1.3 FPS
I cant provide a link to my DP cable manifacturer, because I bought it in a shop, but I tried 3 different DP with all the same results. Pretty sure the port is fine.
I run everything in 1080p
I have 2 displays actually, but the other one is not for gaming. I tried 60hz-144hz-240hz ssame results.
I agree with AyAyRon, this is a LOT of work for one game, even if its good if its unplayable that is kind of a pain.
You have terrible 1% and 0.1% lows which is why you are having issues. That tends to be driver related and not so much the games fault. Have you tried an older set of drivers? Perhaps beta drivers?
If you reinstalled the drivers did you restart your PC before you attempted to run this test?
Did you do Nvidia's proper driver removal steps?
Did you reset the PC and then run Windows Udpate, Reset, and then install the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia's website.
Sometimes Windows force installs a missing driver from Windows update. If you don't let it finish and reset your PC before install the Nvidia driver, sometimes, very rare mind you, you end up having driver related issues because of it.
You are playing the game with Exclusive Full Screen mode, Correct?
On your RAM configuration...
What is the part # for the RAM kit you are using?
Ex. CMK32GX4M4B3866C18R ver 4.31
Also...
There are 4 slots on your motherboard.
Starting from Left to Right if looking at the motherboard while in the PC...
Slot 4 - (Occupied/Empty)
Slot 2 - (Occupied/Empty)
Slot 3 - (Occupied/Empty)
Slot 1 - (Occupied/Empty)
Reply with how you have your memory slotted.
With 2 sticks it should be like this...
Slot 4 - (Empty)
Slot 2 - (Occupied)
Slot 3 - (Empty)
Slot 1 - (Occupied)
You should also try enabling the XMP profile available to your RAM in your motherboard's BIOS menu. Or at least manually setting the RAM speed to 2666 MHz. Your motherboard will adapt the timings after ever restart until it finds something stable. Modern day boards are usually pretty good at stuff like that.
Motherboard Manual
https://d2aw00qtgn0pb6.cloudfront.net/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-ab350-gaming3_e.pdf
Memory QVL - Summit Ridge CPUs
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https://d2aw00qtgn0pb6.cloudfront.net/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350-gaming3.pdf
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It's really not and in the end it will help other games you play as well because if DRG is effected, I am sure other games are as well. You just might not notice it as bad in the other games thought. Worth your time to fix this issue if you like to game.
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Last set of troubleshooting steps...
Monitor CPU and GPU Usage, just from the desktop.
Mark where the CPU and GPU Usage is at from the desktop while you are at idle.
What does CPU and GPU Usage max out at idle at the desktop?
Let me know what your CPU and GPU Usage is at while sitting idle at the desktop.
Try playing with only one monitor connected, do you still have the issue?
Play the game for a mission and record the CPU and GPU Usage.
Do either, CPU and/or GPU, hit 100% usage during your run? Do they get close to 100%?
Do either hit a massive dip in usage and then run back up to normal levels?
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https://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_13955.html
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3565/kw/Driver%20removal/session/L3RpbWUvMTU2NzkwMzgxNy9zaWQvZlVnaFQlN0U4aDJ6NlFmTF9icms1X0dzcXhGYjRCUnU1MlQ2emk0SElIc3RVVG9YU2p0cyU3RVFOd20lN0V3eUZEN2dXNVNIRXREaHJzTU95M2FGWHgwSU9ad1dmYzN3SmJnU3p5T0w3VEJhdVFQZ2pMZjNaS2JjenZUSXlRJTIxJTIx
Display Driver Removal Utility
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
Remove the drivers with the tool and re-install the drivers. See if that does the trick.
Let me know.
Those are pretty much the last steps you can take. After that we've kinda done everything we possibly could from your end.
Never tried older/beta drivers, I keep them updated.
Yes I am playing Exclusive Full Screen mode
I'll check the ram # tomorrow.
Its now at 2933hz with XMP enabled
And yes the sticks are correctly placed
Back tomorrow with ram # and gpu/cpu tests.
I can already tell tho I am experiencing some dip then its getting back to normal. Want me to run the tests with MSI afterburner?
Try a beta driver or just go back to an older driver for now. That just might do the trick.
Awesome.
Please do.
Yes, excellent.
Great. Some people tend to get that wrong.
Ok.
Yes please run those tests with MSI Afterburner and post your findings.
Record Temps of Both CPU and GPU
Make note of the hottest temps your parts reach.
Usage of both CPU and GPU
Mark the highest usage. Take note of any dips.
You can ignore the framerate metrics in your testing at this point since you have determined that is where your issue is and there are only so many things that can cause that type of behavior from the graphics card.
You are getting a decent framerate, Average framerate : 114.1 FPS is perfectly fine. I would most definitely have your Freesync/G-sync engaged. If your monitor doesn't support that feature, set the monitor to a solid 60 Hz in the Windows Settings Menu and Vsync.
Something seems to be causing either the CPU or GPU to choke up and it ruins your 1% and 0.1% lows. This is what is causing the issues you see when playing the game. I doubt it's the game causing the issue and is more likely either an issue with the way the driver is working with the hardware. That or it's your temps. I know you said they were fine but I can't verify that and you really need to check the maximum temps both the CPU and GPU are hitting rather than the current temps. The parts will throttle to keep to a certain temp target once a limit has been exceeded and you will see dips in performance every so often to maintain that target, that could cause the issues you are seeing.
Anyway let me know.