BRT7 Experimental Rounds

[Aratorin]

Does anyone ever take this OC? It's just a strictly worse version of Lead Spray. I mean it's not like this is a long range gun in the first place. Why would I take 1/3 less ammo for +9 damage, when I can take +10 damage for essentially no downside?

[kestrel]

yep, exactly right

it's not even just that lead spray is flat-out better, experimental rounds just sucks on its own and isnt worth taking. lots of ammo and a big mag are defining characteristics of the burt and ER just makes them both worse. only reason to use this is for sniping spitter enemies but the bulldog is significantly better in that regard

burt at long range never works because of the added bloom for each individual shot in a burst. i do not know why people keep claiming it works

[zverozvero]

With mag size and ammo nodes its ammo total goes 192->228 instead of 108->144 while accuracy is close to pinpoint and it dont depend on weakspot hits. Good pair for splash AC or Launcher.

[Cress]

It does have better accuracy than LS, but if it's range you're going for there are far better options. Useless OC is useless.

[Frisky]

pretty much
not much of a case for taking experimental rounds

i just take led spray and offset it's spread with the T1 reduction mod, gives you good medium distance damage without ruining your ammo

if I want a range option I just take compact mags with damage mods

[King Fossil]

I was going to say experimental is alright if you take the right upgrades, but now that I look it's really not. Guess I was misremembering.
I suppose it's better than nothing so if it's your first burst pistol overclock you can use it until you get something better?

[Mason]

Nah, Lead Spray is definitely better.. LS decent for killing big bugs. But you know what is just as effective? Bulldog. In fact I would argue Bulldog is better than the BRT. Using Six Shooter lets you melt big bugs on Haz 5 4 player scaled pretty fast, and you can finish them off with a power attack. I haven't done the testing.. but BRT might be a tad better at dealing with big bugs in close range.. but what Bulldog has over BRT is range. Being able to snipe Spitters off the ceiling is invaluable. Plus the poison DOT... So I say skip BRT altogether and just use the Bulldog.

[doomerinthedark]

i had no idea people hated ER so much lmao, i think i might be the only person on earth that actually uses it regularly

[ナルゴ]

Originally posted by Boycar the Fourth:

i had no idea people hated ER so much lmao, i think i might be the only person on earth that actually uses it regularly

I don't get it either. But people are entitled to their own playstyles and opinions.
I like BRT for medium range, thus I also use Experimental Rounds over Lead Spray as well.

[doomerinthedark]

Originally posted by Nargo:

Originally posted by Boycar the Fourth:

i had no idea people hated ER so much lmao, i think i might be the only person on earth that actually uses it regularly

I don't get it either. But people are entitled to their own playstyles and opinions.
I like BRT for medium range, thus I also use Experimental Rounds over Lead Spray as well.

i personally like to use ER as a "big boi remover 9000" and use my leadstorm for everything else

[Chibbity]

If you want more damage without turning BRT into a pocket shotgun then ER will let you do that; comes down to playstyle and preference like any OC.

LS is great, but also very limiting; it turns a medium range gun into a very short ranged gun.

[King Fossil]

Originally posted by Nargo:

Originally posted by Boycar the Fourth:

i had no idea people hated ER so much lmao, i think i might be the only person on earth that actually uses it regularly

I don't get it either. But people are entitled to their own playstyles and opinions.
I like BRT for medium range, thus I also use Experimental Rounds over Lead Spray as well.

The problem with experimental is that the ammo penalty sucks so you usually need to take the upgrade that counteracts it, and that means you can't take hollow points. So that effectively makes it a +ammo but -damage overclock. Which is still usable, but I'd prefer composite casings instead, since that also gives me ammo but doesn't require me to lose any damage. I like damage.
The other problem is that a lot of people use burst pistol for killing tough enemies at close range, and if they're doing that then lead spray is disgusting overpowered. It gives you more of a damage boost than experimental and its drawback doesn't matter. Stupid overclock.

[zverozvero]

Compact mags against Experimentals is trade of damage total for rate of fire and reliance on hitting weakspots. I prefere Experimentals to face shot praetorians, guards, Grabbers that fly away or macteras and spitters that aim at my mates, Still more ammo of Compacts here is tempting even if i have to hunt for glowy bits.
Against Composites though its just rate of fire for weakspot reliance so it never felt nice for me.

[Aimee]

The overclock is fine, but it falls in a specific playstyle not everyone might use.
Experimental Rounds OC lets you build a highly accurate burst weapon for long range, that deals more consistent more accurate damage to far away targets than the Bulldog and has no chargeup like the Coilgun.
Its perfect to bursting down Spitballers, Brood Nexus, Naedocyte Breeder, Far away cave leech, Krolok and sometimes Wardens when they spawn far away or start running.

You would realy only want to use Experimental Rounds OC when you have a primairy that can deal with most close range things but has a bad TTK for long range.
Autocannon with Carpetbomber/Splintering Shells, and most Hurricane builds it works well with.

Just make sure you get the Accuracy mod at T1.2, damage mod at T3.2*, and burst increase at T5.2. And you got yourself a realy accurate high burst weapon with little to no downsides.

*damage mod is needed to hit 4 player hazard 5 treshholds for killing enemies in a single clip.

[ナルゴ]

Originally posted by Aimee:

The overclock is fine, but it falls in a specific playstyle not everyone might use.
Experimental Rounds OC lets you build a highly accurate burst weapon for long range, that deals more consistent more accurate damage to far away targets than the Bulldog and has no chargeup like the Coilgun.

^pretty much nails my use case for it.
Experimental Rounds BRT is just a consistent way of quickly getting rid of an imminent threat; Spitters, mactera, leeches, etc. Whip it out, delete something 40 meters away, then back to Primary. Precise, no wind-up, and can fire again immediately if needed.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050002307

tl;dr
Experimental Rounds BRT - General purpose gun that works at all ranges.
Lead Spray BRT - When you want to kill a praetorian by unloading into its butt.

For me personally, I almost exclusively use Experimental Rounds BRT and Hellfire coilgun on the Gunner class, barring Volatile bullets bulldog on heat builds.

[MrPurple33]

I've used Experimental Rounds on my Burst Pistol for a LONG Time,
and it's Excellent, at Least for Me

Lead Spray has some more damage, but it causes really bad recoil- When you setup
the Burst Pistol right, it does near-top damage but is Very Accurate, at Any Range

I DO Use the Burst Pistol as both a Mid to Long Range Single Target Killer with Accuracy,
and also as a Good Sidearm up close when I need to Reload one of the 3 Primaries

The Burst Pistol in this way is ALMOST as good as some Primaries, Like Engie's SMG-
But all 3 of Gunner's Main Weapons Rock, so for Single or Wounded Targets,
or Mid to Long Range, I have an Accurate Burst Pistol for that, and other uses

In My Opinion, and the way I setup my Burst Pistol, it's actually one of the Best Sniper Weapons in DRG- Earlier On, I used to Rank The Burst Pistol as the 2nd Best after the M1000- Over Time I now Rank it Lower, as 4th behind the AI Assisted Deepcore AR, the M1000,
and the LOK-1, but still Damn Good, especially as an Option for Gunner, with the Bulldog,
the Subata, and even an Expert with the EPC being a bit behind. but close to the Burst Pistol, especially the Subata