Best way to use Plasma Cutter ?

[Akatosh]

Hello

Trying to unlock everything with the weapon maintenance system.

Now I have to use the Plasma Cutter, but I never liked that weapon, mainly because about the low ammo. Even with the several Overclock I have, I can't find a good one.

Any advices about how to mod that gun and how/when use it ?

Thanks !

[kestrel]

引用自 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲：

引用自 Chibbity：

Stun+Spinning Death

^ This. Objectively the best.

SD is good but it's not the best the gun has to offer. it reduces the gun's effectiveness to only really just grunts as well as making it useless at anything beyond point-blank range. you really need to take LOK1 with it, warthog and stubby are already low range and running them with SD leaves you so vulnerable to so many different threats

it's only really worth taking for defensive missions like salvage ops or escort duty where you're going to be standing in one place for long periods of time
the area denial potential is very good. i'd way sooner have an SD engie than some moron who spams nukes if a swarmer gets within the same postcode as him. but breach is one of those guns that's just extremely good at base. if the situation doesn't call for it, you don't really want to be pigeonholing it to such a niche role when the defining feature of the breach is its versatility

[Gilamex]

引用自 Akatosh：

Hello

Trying to unlock everything with the weapon maintenance system.

Now I have to use the Plasma Cutter, but I never liked that weapon, mainly because about the low ammo. Even with the several Overclock I have, I can't find a good one.

Any advices about how to mod that gun and how/when use it ?

Thanks !

In my opinion, the breach cutter is engi's best secondary. It requires some real building around it to get it to function as best as it can, but when it works, ooohhh it works. So for example, you need your primary to do most of the killing, pick one that works with taking out enemies by themselves. Then, I go either Max DPS with stun and the clean ammo overclock, or stun+size+Spinning Death. Being able to one-shot every smaller enemy in the game with the max DPS build (and 2shot big enemies) is amazing. You don't use it as often as you do a regular secondary. Instead, you pull it out when enemies are in a massive group and kill 20-30 glyphids with 1 ammo. That's extremely efficient (and satisfying).

I main engi and have been using the same loadout (which includes those two different breach cutter variants) for about 3 or 4 years now, so I can explain it to you better personally if you'd like. I'm a huge fan of it, but maybe it just fits my playstyle. No matter how effective the weapon is for one person, it just might not /feel/ effect for someone else. And that's all it comes down to.

[MrPurple33]

引用自 kestrel：

breach really likes being paired with LOK1 because it makes up for LOK's weakness at close range whilst LOK can snipe targets of walls. try executioner LOK1 (BAAAA) and inferno breach cutter (AAABB) together. set a target on fire with breach, then finish it with LOK1. you'll activate both damage bonuses in LOK1 T3A (for fire and electricity) plus the weakspot bonus on executioner, for a cool +%90 total damage. it's one of, if not the best burst damage loadouts in the game

Y'Know, I'm a Huge PGL Fan, and Got Into the Shard Diffractor As Well, But Have Always Considered the Breech Cutter As My Least Favorite Weapon In the Game, and Never Use It-
I Do Love the LOK, and Use Executioner On It With the PGL and Plasma Grenades For Those Moments If I Get Rushed Close Up- Your Setup For the LOK and the Breach With Inferno Looks Interesting, I Shall Note This and Try It Out

Thanks kestrel

[Chibbity]

引用自 kestrel：

you really need to take LOK1 with it, warthog and stubby are already low range and running them with SD leaves you so vulnerable to so many different threats

Me running it with a short ranged full-auto Warthog build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7knNW_b7c

[kestrel]

引用自 Chibbity：

Me running it with a short ranged full-auto Warthog build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7knNW_b7c

my brother in christ what do you even do when a menace shows up

[Lain]

Kite a mob
Dash
Shoot
?
Profit

[Torres, The Devourer]

引用自 kestrel：

引用自 Chibbity：

Me running it with a short ranged full-auto Warthog build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7knNW_b7c

my brother in christ what do you even do when a menace shows up

Well that’s easy. Ya shoot at it…
…And hope all yer pellets connect! Ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar!
(Jeez I’ve been watching too much SpongeBob. Doesn’t help that the Vengance pirate DLC is coming soon)

[MrPurple33]

引用自 kestrel：

引用自 Chibbity：

Me running it with a short ranged full-auto Warthog build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7knNW_b7c

my brother in christ what do you even do when a menace shows up

With the Warthog, Use the PGL and Turrets- The Menace Usually Will Take 1 or 2 Turns Getting Closer To You As Well, Especially If You Relocate Into a Tunnel-
Then Full-Auto Unload On That Mutha'

[Sokaku]

It gets a reputation for low ammo since it has a relatively quick RoF. It's easy for the inexperienced to spam 3 beams at an approaching Oppressor.

As for the use of a BC? Mainly use it for clusters of enemies. Whether ones that you have kited into a group or using a Lure, or are just chasing each other towards you. For OCs, the BC doesn't really need one, simply taking ammo is often good enough, especially with plasma trail. Spinning Death with tri-beams, and stun is fun defensively. I have no idea why anyone takes Return to Sender as you get roughly half the ammo. I much prefer the option of fire & forget two beams instead of babysitting one.

One key advantage of the BC is that it travels through terrain. This means you can fire at dangerous enemies from behind cover. I.e. BET-C in cannon mode.

[Bookslayer10]

I use Inferno BC for general swarm clear on Engi, and - in normal situations - I don't shoot at single targets with it. I do like catching a praetorian in a swarm of grunts to get some extra value, but it's main purpose is trash clear. However, that's just when things are going smoothly. I find the Breach Cutter's biggest advantage, and generally Engi's biggest strength overall, is the ridiculous emergency burst damage it provides.

When you need something dead ASAP, ammo efficiency be damned, the BC is one of the best tools in the game - while still being versatile for normal use cases. Spitballer right in your face on Escort? Two shots will instantly kill it. Menace hitting your team? Run up and magdump to deal with it instantly. Praetorian about to down you and your low health teammates? Stun and kill with one or two bolts. Even smaller enemies like Tri-jaws or stalkers are sometimes in really bad positions, where only the BC has the DPS to kill them in time.

Of course, Hyper Propellant or Overdrive SD can do similar things; the whole point of Engi's secondaries is to provide the team with a "use in case of emergency" weapon. I've actually started using the SD more, I think it's really solid. Still, the wave clear and DPS from a good BC shot is hard to compete with, so all the weapons are good choices.

[Akatosh]

Thanks everyone for your good advices.

I'll give a try to your builds !

Rock & Stone !

[Derpykat5]

Despite what it may seem, the Breach Cutter is an AoE weapon. Don't try to build or use it for single targets. It's best for long corridors or open spaces where there's a lot of enemies all lined up.

[Bookslayer10]

引用自 Derpykat5：

Despite what it may seem, the Breach Cutter is an AoE weapon. Don't try to build or use it for single targets. It's best for long corridors or open spaces where there's a lot of enemies all lined up.

Breach Cutter definitely is an effective burst DPS weapon against certain large enemies. It deals 50/50 fire/electric damage, so enemies weak or not resistant to those damage types will take a lot of damage. For example, spitballers, unrolled shellbacks, mactera, or just normal enemies like praetorians or wardens. Even against resistant enemies like Dreads, in an emergency the DPS is still comparable to a lot of dedicated single target weapons.

I'd say to focus on using it for AoE and to deal with most single targets using your secondary, but it certainly can be used for very effective single target damage.

[Derpykat5]

引用自 Bookslayer10：

引用自 Derpykat5：

Despite what it may seem, the Breach Cutter is an AoE weapon. Don't try to build or use it for single targets. It's best for long corridors or open spaces where there's a lot of enemies all lined up.

Breach Cutter definitely is an effective burst DPS weapon against certain large enemies. It deals 50/50 fire/electric damage, so enemies weak or not resistant to those damage types will take a lot of damage. For example, spitballers, unrolled shellbacks, mactera, or just normal enemies like praetorians or wardens. Even against resistant enemies like Dreads, in an emergency the DPS is still comparable to a lot of dedicated single target weapons.

I'd say to focus on using it for AoE and to deal with most single targets using your secondary, but it certainly can be used for very effective single target damage.

DPS is fine, but if you use it that way you'll run out of ammo pretty darn fast.

[Bookslayer10]

引用自 Derpykat5：

引用自 Bookslayer10：

Breach Cutter definitely is an effective burst DPS weapon against certain large enemies. It deals 50/50 fire/electric damage, so enemies weak or not resistant to those damage types will take a lot of damage. For example, spitballers, unrolled shellbacks, mactera, or just normal enemies like praetorians or wardens. Even against resistant enemies like Dreads, in an emergency the DPS is still comparable to a lot of dedicated single target weapons.

I'd say to focus on using it for AoE and to deal with most single targets using your secondary, but it certainly can be used for very effective single target damage.

DPS is fine, but if you use it that way you'll run out of ammo pretty darn fast.

Yes, but ammo doesn't matter if everyone is dead. Emergency burst damage from the BC has saved my life many times in missions.